Benzo
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Coural
Dec 11, 2017 21:08:30 GMT -4
Post by Benzo on Dec 11, 2017 21:08:30 GMT -4
Funny how eponyms work like that, huh? I wonder if, without Christmas being involved or on our minds, would red & green look better? This might give some indication as to whether it would look better: Ehhh, even then, it still has Christmas vibes just because of what it is, you know? Kind of like a certain ancient symbol for good fortune being completely ruined by a single person. Although trying to ignore that, it doesn't seem half bad... WWII medical unit vibes, for some reason? Is that just me?
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Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 21:12:30 GMT -4
This might give some indication as to whether it would look better: Ehhh, even then, it still has Christmas vibes just because of what it is, you know? Kind of like a certain ancient symbol for good fortune being completely ruined by a single person. Although trying to ignore that, it doesn't seem half bad... WWII medical unit vibes, for some reason? Is that just me? I went to Bali six months ago and lots of people had swastikas up because of their Hindu faith. Once you get over the shock of all the fucking swastikas everywhere (which takes longer than you might think, about a week and a half for me) you can see that, connotations aside, it's a cool-looking symbol. I still absolutely hate it because of what it stands for in modern society, but it's a nice, symmetrical pattern, aside from that.
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Dec 11, 2017 21:17:19 GMT -4
Post by Benzo on Dec 11, 2017 21:17:19 GMT -4
Ehhh, even then, it still has Christmas vibes just because of what it is, you know? Kind of like a certain ancient symbol for good fortune being completely ruined by a single person. Although trying to ignore that, it doesn't seem half bad... WWII medical unit vibes, for some reason? Is that just me? I went to Bali six months ago and lots of people had swastikas up because of their Hindu faith. Once you get over the shock of all the fucking swastikas everywhere (which takes longer than you might think, about a week and a half for me) you can see that, connotations aside, it's a cool-looking symbol. I still absolutely hate it because of what it stands for in modern society, but it's a nice, symmetrical pattern, aside from that. Oh absolutely, and it's wonderful to know that those who would use it still do, but yeah, the swastika is definitely ruined in western society. And it definitely does have a certain charm to its simplicity in form. I remember a show making a joke with Frank designing a flag of four capital F's which, sure enough, turned out to be a double-swastika to some extent, but I thought it looked kind of cool, all jokes and political factions aside.
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Coural
Dec 11, 2017 21:23:03 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 21:23:03 GMT -4
I went to Bali six months ago and lots of people had swastikas up because of their Hindu faith. Once you get over the shock of all the fucking swastikas everywhere (which takes longer than you might think, about a week and a half for me) you can see that, connotations aside, it's a cool-looking symbol. I still absolutely hate it because of what it stands for in modern society, but it's a nice, symmetrical pattern, aside from that. Oh absolutely, and it's wonderful to know that those who would use it still do, but yeah, the swastika is definitely ruined in western society. And it definitely does have a certain charm to its simplicity in form. I remember a show making a joke with Frank designing a flag of four capital F's which, sure enough, turned out to be a double-swastika to some extent, but I thought it looked kind of cool, all jokes and political factions aside. If you can find a shape with the simplicity and rotational symmetry of a swastika and none of the racism that comes with it, I'd be interested in it.
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Coural
Dec 11, 2017 21:40:52 GMT -4
Post by snowy happy on Dec 11, 2017 21:40:52 GMT -4
I just told you, to, like, shut up. Also, it is DEFINITELY IMPOSSIBLE for a river to split and/or go from coast to coast. IMPOSSIBLE. Yeah, that's what I said. Look at your rivers again and tell me that they're not splitting and remerging like fucking crazy. /sarcasm
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Dec 11, 2017 21:47:55 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 21:47:55 GMT -4
Yeah, that's what I said. Look at your rivers again and tell me that they're not splitting and remerging like fucking crazy. /sarcasm Look at your map. Someone else, please, look at it to confirm that I'm not crazy.
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Dec 11, 2017 21:53:22 GMT -4
Post by snowy happy on Dec 11, 2017 21:53:22 GMT -4
Look at your map. Someone else, please, look at it to confirm that I'm not crazy. Thanks for the kind words, Tim. You're a real help!
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Dec 11, 2017 21:55:26 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 21:55:26 GMT -4
Look at your map. Someone else, please, look at it to confirm that I'm not crazy. Thanks for the kind words, Tim. You're a real help! You're welcome! Now, if you'd responded to my constructive criticism like that from the beginning, there would be a lot less arguing.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:04:39 GMT -4
Post by snowy happy on Dec 11, 2017 22:04:39 GMT -4
Thanks for the kind words, Tim. You're a real help! You're welcome! Now, if you'd responded to my constructive criticism like that from the beginning, there would be a lot less arguing. No, there wouldn't. You'd just find another thing to pick on.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:06:14 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 22:06:14 GMT -4
You're welcome! Now, if you'd responded to my constructive criticism like that from the beginning, there would be a lot less arguing. No, there wouldn't. You'd just find another thing to pick on. Like your positive attitude?
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Dec 11, 2017 22:07:53 GMT -4
Post by snowy happy on Dec 11, 2017 22:07:53 GMT -4
No, there wouldn't. You'd just find another thing to pick on. Like your positive attitude? You don't have any more of a positive attitude then I do. Also, I'm a lot better in actual real life.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:11:50 GMT -4
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 22:11:50 GMT -4
Look at your map. Someone else, please, look at it to confirm that I'm not crazy. Well, you're probably not crazy, but I can certainly agree that your approach to rivers is much better than a bunch of random squiggly lines. I mean, jesus, they're rivers; they have to flow. But of course, that approach is also less easy. Then again, good mapmaking in general is really hard (which is why I haven't taken it upon myself to seriously make one.) I don't know what snowy happy here was expecting when he took up the task, but (helpful) criticism shouldn't be a surprise in the least.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:16:47 GMT -4
Post by snowy happy on Dec 11, 2017 22:16:47 GMT -4
Look at your map. Someone else, please, look at it to confirm that I'm not crazy. Well, you're probably not crazy, but I can certainly agree that your approach to rivers is much better than a bunch of random squiggly lines. I mean, jesus, they're rivers; they have to flow. But of course, that approach is also less easy. Then again, good mapmaking in general is really hard (which is why I haven't taken it upon myself to seriously make one.) I don't know what snowy happy here was expecting when he took up the task, but (helpful) criticism shouldn't be a surprise in the least. Yes, helpful criticism is helpful, but Tim's criticism is anything BUT helpful as of now. Besides, the river system in Coural could work, even if it's uncommon in the real world. For Pete's sake, it's a fictional country! I can have SOME building freedoms.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:17:40 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 22:17:40 GMT -4
Look at your map. Someone else, please, look at it to confirm that I'm not crazy. Well, you're probably not crazy, but I can certainly agree that your approach to rivers is much better than a bunch of random squiggly lines. I mean, jesus, they're rivers; they have to flow. But of course, that approach is also less easy. Then again, good mapmaking in general is really hard (which is why I haven't taken it upon myself to seriously make one.) I don't know what snowy happy here was expecting when he took up the task, but (helpful) criticism shouldn't be a surprise in the least. All the maps that I've tried to make were of smaller regions because large-scale geography is really hard. For the mountains and volcanoes and canyons I need to come up with tectonics, for the rivers I need realistic flow, for the biomes I need to know the weather patterns and how they're influenced by the coastline, and those will impact things like water erosion due to the rivers, and honestly it's really hard. I think Happy may have been expecting us to be a bunch of yes-men. I'm the only person that you guys even sometimes seem to be yes-men to, and I don't even think that that's really being yes-men so much as me being intelligent and you guys individually agreeing with each thing I do on the merit of that thing alone.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:18:18 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 22:18:18 GMT -4
Well, you're probably not crazy, but I can certainly agree that your approach to rivers is much better than a bunch of random squiggly lines. I mean, jesus, they're rivers; they have to flow. But of course, that approach is also less easy. Then again, good mapmaking in general is really hard (which is why I haven't taken it upon myself to seriously make one.) I don't know what snowy happy here was expecting when he took up the task, but (helpful) criticism shouldn't be a surprise in the least. Yes, helpful criticism is helpful, but Tim's criticism is anything BUT helpful as of now. Besides, the river system in Coural could work, even if it's uncommon in the real world. For Pete's sake, it's a fictional country! I can have SOME building freedoms. Yes, but suspension of disbelief can only go so far.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:18:37 GMT -4
Post by snowy happy on Dec 11, 2017 22:18:37 GMT -4
Well, you're probably not crazy, but I can certainly agree that your approach to rivers is much better than a bunch of random squiggly lines. I mean, jesus, they're rivers; they have to flow. But of course, that approach is also less easy. Then again, good mapmaking in general is really hard (which is why I haven't taken it upon myself to seriously make one.) I don't know what snowy happy here was expecting when he took up the task, but (helpful) criticism shouldn't be a surprise in the least. All the maps that I've tried to make were of smaller regions because large-scale geography is really hard. For the mountains and volcanoes and canyons I need to come up with tectonics, for the rivers I need realistic flow, for the biomes I need to know the weather patterns and how they're influenced by the coastline, and those will impact things like water erosion due to the rivers, and honestly it's really hard. I think Happy may have been expecting us to be a bunch of yes-men. I'm the only person that you guys even sometimes seem to be yes-men to, and I don't even think that that's really being yes-men so much as me being intelligent and you guys individually agreeing with each thing I do on the merit of that thing alone. Tim, all I wanted was for someone to like it.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:21:23 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 22:21:23 GMT -4
All the maps that I've tried to make were of smaller regions because large-scale geography is really hard. For the mountains and volcanoes and canyons I need to come up with tectonics, for the rivers I need realistic flow, for the biomes I need to know the weather patterns and how they're influenced by the coastline, and those will impact things like water erosion due to the rivers, and honestly it's really hard. I think Happy may have been expecting us to be a bunch of yes-men. I'm the only person that you guys even sometimes seem to be yes-men to, and I don't even think that that's really being yes-men so much as me being intelligent and you guys individually agreeing with each thing I do on the merit of that thing alone. Tim, all I wanted was for someone to like it. I do like it. I really do. Do you think I would have bothered adding my input if I thought it was an entirely lost cause? Also I really liked criticizing it.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:23:16 GMT -4
Post by snowy happy on Dec 11, 2017 22:23:16 GMT -4
Tim, all I wanted was for someone to like it. I do like it. I really do. Do you think I would have bothered adding my input if I thought it was an entirely lost cause? Also I really liked criticizing it. You like it? That was essentially impossible to tell.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 22:26:12 GMT -4
Well, you're probably not crazy, but I can certainly agree that your approach to rivers is much better than a bunch of random squiggly lines. I mean, jesus, they're rivers; they have to flow. But of course, that approach is also less easy. Then again, good mapmaking in general is really hard (which is why I haven't taken it upon myself to seriously make one.) I don't know what snowy happy here was expecting when he took up the task, but (helpful) criticism shouldn't be a surprise in the least. Yes, helpful criticism is helpful, but Tim's criticism is anything BUT helpful as of now. Besides, the river system in Coural could work, even if it's uncommon in the real world. For Pete's sake, it's a fictional country! I can have SOME building freedoms. He is literally giving you suggestions on how to fix it. He's actually telling you the problems instead of insulting you constantly on things that may or may not even be related. This is constructive criticism. He's telling you how you could improve.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:27:02 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 22:27:02 GMT -4
I do like it. I really do. Do you think I would have bothered adding my input if I thought it was an entirely lost cause? Also I really liked criticizing it. You like it? That was essentially impossible to tell. I mean, I like the idea of it, and criticizing it was fun, so I'd say that overall I quite liked the contents of this thread.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:28:05 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 22:28:05 GMT -4
Yes, helpful criticism is helpful, but Tim's criticism is anything BUT helpful as of now. Besides, the river system in Coural could work, even if it's uncommon in the real world. For Pete's sake, it's a fictional country! I can have SOME building freedoms. He is literally giving you suggestions on how to fix it. He's actually telling you the problems instead of insulting you constantly on things that may or may not even be related. This is constructive criticism. He's telling you how you could improve.I even went so far as to, instead of just leaving it at "bad map", go further than Ben did and make some example maps based on Happy's own designs.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:56:36 GMT -4
Post by snowy happy on Dec 11, 2017 22:56:36 GMT -4
He is literally giving you suggestions on how to fix it. He's actually telling you the problems instead of insulting you constantly on things that may or may not even be related. This is constructive criticism. He's telling you how you could improve.I even went so far as to, instead of just leaving it at "bad map", go further than Ben did and make some example maps based on Happy's own designs. Wait, you did? Let me see.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:58:07 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 22:58:07 GMT -4
I even went so far as to, instead of just leaving it at "bad map", go further than Ben did and make some example maps based on Happy's own designs. Wait, you did? Let me see. You said that they were ugly and ignored them.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:59:09 GMT -4
Post by snowy happy on Dec 11, 2017 22:59:09 GMT -4
Wait, you did? Let me see. You said that they were ugly and ignored them. I didn't actually see them. I couldn't have called something I didn't see ugly. All I saw were the 'fixed' flags, actually.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:59:24 GMT -4
Post by Bannanachair on Dec 11, 2017 22:59:24 GMT -4
Also, Benzo, I made this with the map maker that I assume we both found online separately through google search. Is it a good map?
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