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Post by happysupercooldude99 on Apr 14, 2019 16:14:42 GMT -4
I don't see her posting anymore. Did she leave or something?
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Post by Baise-moi on Apr 14, 2019 23:55:18 GMT -4
Yes. I'd link you to the thread but essentially she has left for another community, as I understand it. She still comes around sometimes. Less frequently.
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Post by happysupercooldude99 on Apr 15, 2019 0:44:48 GMT -4
Thanks for letting me know. That kinda sucks, though. I was hoping to reconcile with her after I made that apology.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 22:59:10 GMT -4
Thanks for letting me know. That kinda sucks, though. I was hoping to reconcile with her after I made that apology. I thought I told you I wasn't giving you any more second chances, happy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 22:59:50 GMT -4
Yes. I'd link you to the thread but essentially she has left for another community, as I understand it. She still comes around sometimes. Less frequently. He. And yes, this is true.
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Post by Baise-moi on Apr 16, 2019 0:14:58 GMT -4
Yes. I'd link you to the thread but essentially she has left for another community, as I understand it. She still comes around sometimes. Less frequently. He. And yes, this is true. ...He? Did I miss something?
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Post by Bannanachair on Apr 16, 2019 6:35:29 GMT -4
He. And yes, this is true. ...He? Did I miss something? I think it's fairly obvious what it is that you missed if there was even a large public announcement about it just from the correction of pronouns.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 10:03:09 GMT -4
I've been using he/him pronouns for ages now; this isn't really anything new. The only reason you forumers knew me by she is because of a few well-meaning friends of mine with a white knight-ish tendency to "correct" people's pronoun use at every possible chance they got. Cough cough, Swedishdidthatalot. That, and I got tired of telling people that I accepted any pronouns. (excluding "it" since that's dehumanizing. duh.)
Oh, and something about there being a lot of transphobes in the old community.
And yes, I've joined a new community. One where I've actually been able to make good friends again; one that's actually alive and active. And a bonus, it's on a site where I can mute and block people who aren't worth my time. Pretty great, right? And since no one there knew me from before, I was able to start fresh. Part of which meaning I could finally use the right pronouns.
So, hopefully that answers your questions to some degree of satisfaction.
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Post by happysupercooldude99 on Apr 16, 2019 13:00:11 GMT -4
I've been using he/him pronouns for ages now; this isn't really anything new. The only reason you forumers knew me by she is because of a few well-meaning friends of mine with a white knight-ish tendency to "correct" people's pronoun use at every possible chance they got. Cough cough, Swedishdidthatalot. That, and I got tired of telling people that I accepted any pronouns. (excluding "it" since that's dehumanizing. duh.) Oh, and something about there being a lot of transphobes in the old community. And yes, I've joined a new community. One where I've actually been able to make good friends again; one that's actually alive and active. And a bonus, it's on a site where I can mute and block people who aren't worth my time. Pretty great, right? And since no one there knew me from before, I was able to start fresh. Part of which meaning I could finally use the right pronouns. So, hopefully that answers your questions to some degree of satisfaction. You didn't tell me about the second chance thing; I woke up one morning and I was blocked. No explanation provided. Regardless, I see it now. I don't really have any reason to continue this. It's time for me to move on.
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Post by Baise-moi on Apr 16, 2019 17:47:40 GMT -4
I've been using he/him pronouns for ages now; this isn't really anything new. The only reason you forumers knew me by she is because of a few well-meaning friends of mine with a white knight-ish tendency to "correct" people's pronoun use at every possible chance they got. Cough cough, Swedishdidthatalot. That, and I got tired of telling people that I accepted any pronouns. (excluding "it" since that's dehumanizing. duh.) Oh, and something about there being a lot of transphobes in the old community. And yes, I've joined a new community. One where I've actually been able to make good friends again; one that's actually alive and active. And a bonus, it's on a site where I can mute and block people who aren't worth my time. Pretty great, right? And since no one there knew me from before, I was able to start fresh. Part of which meaning I could finally use the right pronouns. So, hopefully that answers your questions to some degree of satisfaction. Oh, cool. This is just my first time hearing about the pronoun thing. I really can't speak to how the rest of the old community would have viewed it - I don't actually recall anyone's stance.
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Post by happysupercooldude99 on Apr 16, 2019 18:02:45 GMT -4
I've been using he/him pronouns for ages now; this isn't really anything new. The only reason you forumers knew me by she is because of a few well-meaning friends of mine with a white knight-ish tendency to "correct" people's pronoun use at every possible chance they got. Cough cough, Swedishdidthatalot. That, and I got tired of telling people that I accepted any pronouns. (excluding "it" since that's dehumanizing. duh.) Oh, and something about there being a lot of transphobes in the old community. And yes, I've joined a new community. One where I've actually been able to make good friends again; one that's actually alive and active. And a bonus, it's on a site where I can mute and block people who aren't worth my time. Pretty great, right? And since no one there knew me from before, I was able to start fresh. Part of which meaning I could finally use the right pronouns. So, hopefully that answers your questions to some degree of satisfaction. Oh, cool. This is just my first time hearing about the pronoun thing. I really can't speak to how the rest of the old community would have viewed it - I don't actually recall anyone's stance. Did I miss this being announced on BC? I thought only a few people knew about it until now.
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Post by Bannanachair on Apr 16, 2019 18:12:13 GMT -4
Oh, cool. This is just my first time hearing about the pronoun thing. I really can't speak to how the rest of the old community would have viewed it - I don't actually recall anyone's stance. Did I miss this being announced on BC? I thought only a few people knew about it until now. I don't think that there was ever a formal announcement. It doesn't really matter anyway.
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Post by happysupercooldude99. on Apr 16, 2019 20:40:23 GMT -4
Did I miss this being announced on BC? I thought only a few people knew about it until now. I don't think that there was ever a formal announcement. It doesn't really matter anyway. Okay. Well, farewell, Purring. Thanks for the five years of fun.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 22:06:29 GMT -4
I've been using he/him pronouns for ages now; this isn't really anything new. The only reason you forumers knew me by she is because of a few well-meaning friends of mine with a white knight-ish tendency to "correct" people's pronoun use at every possible chance they got. Cough cough, Swedishdidthatalot. That, and I got tired of telling people that I accepted any pronouns. (excluding "it" since that's dehumanizing. duh.) Oh, and something about there being a lot of transphobes in the old community. And yes, I've joined a new community. One where I've actually been able to make good friends again; one that's actually alive and active. And a bonus, it's on a site where I can mute and block people who aren't worth my time. Pretty great, right? And since no one there knew me from before, I was able to start fresh. Part of which meaning I could finally use the right pronouns. So, hopefully that answers your questions to some degree of satisfaction. Oh, cool. This is just my first time hearing about the pronoun thing. I really can't speak to how the rest of the old community would have viewed it - I don't actually recall anyone's stance. I recall one thread in particular that was full of trabsphobia, plus several other threads that were along those lines as well. Not to mention folie's experience. God, from how many times we misgendered him as a community, it's no wonder he left it. Our community was fucking brutal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 22:08:16 GMT -4
Did I miss this being announced on BC? I thought only a few people knew about it until now. I don't think that there was ever a formal announcement. It doesn't really matter anyway. No, there wasn't. And for good reason.
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Post by happysupercooldude99 on Apr 16, 2019 22:31:57 GMT -4
I don't think that there was ever a formal announcement. It doesn't really matter anyway. No, there wasn't. And for good reason. Could you and I maybe leave this off on a positive note, or...
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Post by Bannanachair on Apr 17, 2019 6:30:02 GMT -4
Oh, cool. This is just my first time hearing about the pronoun thing. I really can't speak to how the rest of the old community would have viewed it - I don't actually recall anyone's stance. I recall one thread in particular that was full of trabsphobia, plus several other threads that were along those lines as well. Not to mention folie's experience. God, from how many times we misgendered him as a community, it's no wonder he left it. Our community was fucking brutal. I do not remember Folie, but knowing what I was like back then, I do not doubt that I was among the worst (because I was just, like, an asshole in general). If that is the case (which it probably is), then I'm sorry for making it so that you'd be uncomfortable coming out to the community and for six years of misgendering.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 9:30:22 GMT -4
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Post by happysupercooldude99 on Apr 17, 2019 10:45:01 GMT -4
You know, the arguments on that thread actually seem kind of tame compared to what I see on the internet nowadays. Also, I saw the name "TheLegoGamerDude1" and really wanted to stop reading.
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Post by Bannanachair on Apr 17, 2019 11:30:57 GMT -4
I’d forgotten about that thread and was surprised that I had stopped being stupid by 2015. I had found a much older thread from 2013 where I was an absolute fucking idiot, a misygonist and probably a transphobic bigot (its hard to tell), though I think I was doing those things in the name of malicious cruelty rather than sincerely holding those positions. (edit: found it. In my defence, I was really fucking stupid back then and am hopefully a much less horrible person now) My stance on LGBT rights is much the same now as it was in 2015. I’m just more knowledgeable and better able to word my points than I was then.
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Post by happysupercooldude99 on Apr 17, 2019 18:00:46 GMT -4
I’d forgotten about that thread and was surprised that I had stopped being stupid by 2015. I had found a much older thread from 2013 where I was an absolute fucking idiot, a misygonist and probably a transphobic bigot (its hard to tell), though I think I was doing those things in the name of malicious cruelty rather than sincerely holding those positions. My stance on LGBT rights is much the same now as it was in 2015. I’m just more knowledgeable and better able to word my points than I was then. I used to be really passionate about rights, but for some reason after some time I came to realize that I had never seen any person of any type being discriminated in any stretch of life (because I live in a small coastal-hilly town in Canada), and so I decided to just not really care. I get really tired of getting involved in things like that, so I just stay out of it unless someone from either the -phobe or -ist side are being especially unfair or rude.
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Post by Bannanachair on Apr 17, 2019 18:28:25 GMT -4
I’d forgotten about that thread and was surprised that I had stopped being stupid by 2015. I had found a much older thread from 2013 where I was an absolute fucking idiot, a misygonist and probably a transphobic bigot (its hard to tell), though I think I was doing those things in the name of malicious cruelty rather than sincerely holding those positions. My stance on LGBT rights is much the same now as it was in 2015. I’m just more knowledgeable and better able to word my points than I was then. I used to be really passionate about rights, but for some reason after some time I came to realize that I had never seen any person of any type being discriminated in any stretch of life (because I live in a small coastal-hilly town in Canada), and so I decided to just not really care. I get really tired of getting involved in things like that, so I just stay out of it unless someone from either the -phobe or -ist side are being especially unfair or rude. Just because it's not happening right in front of you doesn't mean that it's not happening. If your town's so progressive, then surely there must be a movement of some kind protesting kids being locked in cages, the trans military ban or something horrible in Canadian politics. If your area's not as progressive as you think it is (which you'd need to do lots of research to find out, not just "I, the cishet upper-class neurotypical man don't see any bigotry, therefore it's not there") then work to change that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 18:40:21 GMT -4
You know, the arguments on that thread actually seem kind of tame compared to what I see on the internet nowadays. Also, I saw the name "TheLegoGamerDude1" and really wanted to stop reading. Funny, I don't remember asking for your opinion on how severe the argument was. I didn't link to it because it was a bad argument (though if you look at it from a logical standpoint, almost every single argument made in that thread is a fucking mess) - I linked to that thread because it made a lasting impression on me. Even before finding it again years later, I could still remember that thread in particular. That, plus the other factors I mentioned, shaped the way I acted on the forum and how I acted toward myself. And obviously saying that is a gross simplification; hundreds of factors go into this stuff. But going strictly by the topic of transness and identity in general, the things I mentioned are true.
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Post by happysupercooldude99 on Apr 17, 2019 18:43:56 GMT -4
I used to be really passionate about rights, but for some reason after some time I came to realize that I had never seen any person of any type being discriminated in any stretch of life (because I live in a small coastal-hilly town in Canada), and so I decided to just not really care. I get really tired of getting involved in things like that, so I just stay out of it unless someone from either the -phobe or -ist side are being especially unfair or rude. Just because it's not happening right in front of you doesn't mean that it's not happening. If your town's so progressive, then surely there must be a movement of some kind protesting kids being locked in cages, the trans military ban or something horrible in Canadian politics. If your area's not as progressive as you think it is (which you'd need to do lots of research to find out, not just "I, the cishet upper-class neurotypical man don't see any bigotry, therefore it's not there") then work to change that. I know it's there. The town isn't 'progressive' (there aren't really any LGBTQ+ people that I've seen, possibly excluding some tourists, but that doesn't count) and there are no movements, including ones that involve Canadian politics (we're sort of isolated). I don't think I need to research the intricacies of my hometown, which I've been living in for almost all of my life, to see if there's any form of oppression. The only problems that flare up around here are about the environment, since companies try to build hotels and complexes in beautiful forested areas and parks ALL THE TIME. I can't answer why the town is like this, but I really don't feel like getting involved in an issue that doesn't apply to the area I live/have lived in. I'd rather spend my single chance at life here in a more quiet demeanor, and as long as everyone else I know does this too, then I'm not changing sides or joining the argument.
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Post by Bannanachair on Apr 17, 2019 18:47:51 GMT -4
Just because it's not happening right in front of you doesn't mean that it's not happening. If your town's so progressive, then surely there must be a movement of some kind protesting kids being locked in cages, the trans military ban or something horrible in Canadian politics. If your area's not as progressive as you think it is (which you'd need to do lots of research to find out, not just "I, the cishet upper-class neurotypical man don't see any bigotry, therefore it's not there") then work to change that. I know it's there. The town isn't 'progressive' (there aren't really any LGBTQ+ people that I've seen, possibly excluding some tourists, but that doesn't count) and there are no movements, including ones that involve Canadian politics (we're sort of isolated). I don't think I need to research the intricacies of my hometown, which I've been living in for almost all of my life, to see if there's any form of oppression. The only problems that flare up around here are about the environment, since companies try to build hotels and complexes in beautiful forested areas and parks ALL THE TIME. I can't answer why the town is like this, but I really don't feel like getting involved in an issue that doesn't apply to the area I live/have lived in. I'd rather spend my single chance at life here in a more quiet demeanor, and as long as everyone else I know does this too, then I'm not changing sides or joining the argument. You've never seen any LGBTQ+ people in your town, or the only LGBTQ+ people in your town are closeted due to social stigmatisation (which your current attitude contributes towards), etc.? There's a huge difference there. But yeah, environmental activism is totally cool as well. You need to stop the corporations from cutting down three trees to build a hotel, while simultaneously ignoring the systematic destruction of many major rainforests around the world. And it's not like you can't be an activist for multiple causes simultaneously - you need to focus solely on your own town's environmental issues.
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