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Post by happy on Aug 11, 2017 15:25:15 GMT -4
Okay, so in 1961 a B-52 ended up accidentally crashing into a field in North Carolina. It was carrying two hydrogen bombs and they both nearly detonated in the crash, but due to extreme luck they didn't. So what if one or even both of the bombs ended up detonating? Would this trigger anything serious? It's estimated that the fallout from the bombs could have reached New York City if they detonated, also going through Washington, D.C and Philadelphia.
It doesn't seem to be very important in history, but I saw info about this event in a video and wanted to know what you all thought of it. Probably should do more research on it...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 15:49:48 GMT -4
well, if washington DC was bad enough, they'd probably want to move the capitol to a place that wasn't affected at all, and there'd be conservative-minded people rallying against it because "This is our capitol; we can't change it!", not to mention a bunch of other news and protests about whatever they can think to blame. there would also be programs made to help the affected areas recover, but of course, those programs would only provide minimal support and likely not enough to cover, say, health risks and such.
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Post by happy on Aug 11, 2017 16:38:14 GMT -4
well, if washington DC was bad enough, they'd probably want to move the capitol to a place that wasn't affected at all, and there'd be conservative-minded people rallying against it because "This is our capitol; we can't change it!", not to mention a bunch of other news and protests about whatever they can think to blame. there would also be programs made to help the affected areas recover, but of course, those programs would only provide minimal support and likely not enough to cover, say, health risks and such. The idea of the protesting against the different capitol would probably affect the state of the U.S. and maybe even relations with other countries, so that would be a bad thing. South Carolina would probably be off-limits for years until the radioactivity clears up to a level where it's safer.
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Post by Tikobe on Aug 11, 2017 16:39:07 GMT -4
Sounds more real than:
Scaramucci
Late July, 2017 - Slightly Later July, 2017
I'm seriously waiting for that point where the emo kid with superpowers pops up.
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Post by happy on Aug 11, 2017 17:56:14 GMT -4
Sounds more real than: Scaramucci Late July, 2017 - Slightly Later July, 2017 I'm seriously waiting for that point where the emo kid with superpowers pops up. wha?
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Post by Bannanachair on Aug 11, 2017 20:24:26 GMT -4
The only reason this is a minor historical footnote is because the bombs didn't go off. If they did, then these three events will likely happen:
1) Large-scale movement of populations from areas within the fallout zone to other places. If this includes DC, Philly and NYC, then this will make the second one significantly more extreme.
2) The economy would go absolutely fucking ballistic. I can't predict what would happen to the economy if New York City was completely depopulated, but I can imagine that something absolutely insane would happen.
3) Popular support for the nuclear missile programs would drop drastically. Anyone who at all seemed pro-nuclear in American politics would not stand a chance, and therefore America would either have a very minimal nuclear arsenal with significantly higher security or we would no longer be a nuclear power, basically letting the USSR win the Cold War (barring some other crazy happenstance on this scale).
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Post by happy on Aug 11, 2017 21:54:28 GMT -4
The only reason this is a minor historical footnote is because the bombs didn't go off. If they did, then these three events will likely happen: 1) Large-scale movement of populations from areas within the fallout zone to other places. If this includes DC, Philly and NYC, then this will make the second one significantly more extreme. 2) The economy would go absolutely fucking ballistic. I can't predict what would happen to the economy if New York City was completely depopulated, but I can imagine that something absolutely insane would happen. 3) Popular support for the nuclear missile programs would drop drastically. Anyone who at all seemed pro-nuclear in American politics would not stand a chance, and therefore America would either have a very minimal nuclear arsenal with significantly higher security or we would no longer be a nuclear power, basically letting the USSR win the Cold War (barring some other crazy happenstance on this scale). The fallout estimates just barely reached NYC, so the levels of radiation and general danger would most likely be substantially lower then in Washington and Philly, which would bare less evacuations. I doubt NYC would be hit that hard. If they went off, people might have still viewed it as a complete accident, and more of a demonstration of the power of nuclear weapons. There still would have been a possibility, a small one at that, that the support for nuclear development would just take a bit of a drop instead of breaking through the floor.
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Post by Bannanachair on Aug 11, 2017 22:07:02 GMT -4
The only reason this is a minor historical footnote is because the bombs didn't go off. If they did, then these three events will likely happen: 1) Large-scale movement of populations from areas within the fallout zone to other places. If this includes DC, Philly and NYC, then this will make the second one significantly more extreme. 2) The economy would go absolutely fucking ballistic. I can't predict what would happen to the economy if New York City was completely depopulated, but I can imagine that something absolutely insane would happen. 3) Popular support for the nuclear missile programs would drop drastically. Anyone who at all seemed pro-nuclear in American politics would not stand a chance, and therefore America would either have a very minimal nuclear arsenal with significantly higher security or we would no longer be a nuclear power, basically letting the USSR win the Cold War (barring some other crazy happenstance on this scale). The fallout estimates just barely reached NYC, so the levels of radiation and general danger would most likely be substantially lower then in Washington and Philly, which would bare less evacuations. I doubt NYC would be hit that hard. If they went off, people might have still viewed it as a complete accident, and more of a demonstration of the power of nuclear weapons. There still would have been a possibility, a small one at that, that the support for nuclear development would just take a bit of a drop instead of breaking through the floor. Okay, but still, imagine the economic effects of a mass evacuation from Philly, DC and Baltimore. I plotted it on Nukemap and you're right that it doesn't look like New York would be in immediate danger, but I didn't factor in the windspeed of that particular day or other such stuff, I just used the presets.EDIT: I just replotted it with information about the windspeed on that day.
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