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Post by Bannanachair on Aug 25, 2016 7:58:44 GMT -4
I'm personally a fan of Stoicism (and, by extension Neostoicism), but I'm curious about what philosophical movement(s) you guys like the best. Maybe I'll do polling as well, I dunno.
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Post by Dex on Aug 26, 2016 3:29:10 GMT -4
I don't really associate myself with any philosophy because life is so wonderful it would be terrible to just ignore it's subtle and unsubtle feelings by replacing it with something else. The feeling of air all around you, the breaths you take in, the things you can sense, the feeling of being in flesh is like it's holding you back but letting you do so many amazing things, tasting both terrible and great foods, the wonder of finding out what's to come, seeing the passage of time, seeing the technologies we've made and the feeling of being around many buildings. Can't you feel how good it is to be alive?
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Post by Bannanachair on Aug 26, 2016 5:59:58 GMT -4
I don't really associate myself with any philosophy because life is so wonderful it would be terrible to just ignore it's subtle and unsubtle feelings by replacing it with something else. The feeling of air all around you, the breaths you take in, the things you can sense, the feeling of being in flesh is like it's holding you back but letting you do so many amazing things, tasting both terrible and great foods, the wonder of finding out what's to come, seeing the passage of time, seeing the technologies we've made and the feeling of being around many buildings. Can't you feel how good it is to be alive? Epicureanism? |
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Post by Dex on Aug 26, 2016 8:26:44 GMT -4
A simple life of simple pleasures might be good but a complex life of complex pleasures is better. I have a love-hate relationship with fear because it can make things more interesting by increasing the tension yet it can also make it less interesting by forcing you to run away from the things you fear. I think pain should change from being such a primitive, instinctual and overriding feeling to a more complex, informative and detached feeling.
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Post by hygenisthygenist on Aug 26, 2016 9:44:49 GMT -4
Pyrrhonism. It seems to me a good way to reach Ataraxia without cloying dogma. One of my favorite philosophers is Max Stirner, and to me the two mesh well.
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Post by Bannanachair on Aug 26, 2016 10:19:58 GMT -4
Pyrrhonism. It seems to me a good way to reach Ataraxia without cloying dogma. One of my favorite philosophers is Max Stirner, and to me the two mesh well. I need some form of outside world to at least be able to delude myself into thinking that I'm not mad. That's really the only downside I can see to Pyrrhonism (or Skepticism of any kind, really). |
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Post by hygenisthygenist on Aug 26, 2016 16:02:03 GMT -4
Pyrrhonism. It seems to me a good way to reach Ataraxia without cloying dogma. One of my favorite philosophers is Max Stirner, and to me the two mesh well. I need some form of outside world to at least be able to delude myself into thinking that I'm not mad. That's really the only downside I can see to Pyrrhonism (or Skepticism of any kind, really). Sanity is a social construct. It seems to me that apathy is the answer to most problems. |
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Post by Bannanachair on Aug 26, 2016 22:20:01 GMT -4
I need some form of outside world to at least be able to delude myself into thinking that I'm not mad. That's really the only downside I can see to Pyrrhonism (or Skepticism of any kind, really). Sanity is a social construct. It seems to me that apathy is the answer to most problems. There's a difference between being unfettered by the outside world and doubting it's very existence. |
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Post by eloos on Aug 27, 2016 0:39:25 GMT -4
the way tim's posts are spaced out piss me off so much
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Post by hygenisthygenist on Aug 27, 2016 1:24:36 GMT -4
Sanity is a social construct. It seems to me that apathy is the answer to most problems. There's a difference between being unfettered by the outside world and doubting it's very existence. Why not doubt its existence? It's completely worthy of doubt. |
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Post by Bannanachair on Aug 27, 2016 5:34:03 GMT -4
There's a difference between being unfettered by the outside world and doubting it's very existence. Why not doubt its existence? It's completely worthy of doubt. If Skepticism is the belief that nothing exists then you can't be a Skeptic due to the fact that in being a Skeptic you would have to believe in Skepticism despite the fact that Skeptics should doubt the existence of Skepticism. And yes, while it is all and well to doubt the existance of the world, due to the fact that there is nothing we can do to prove it either way then would it not be preferable to simply go on assuming that the universe, and everything in it, exists? |
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Post by hygenisthygenist on Aug 27, 2016 5:49:54 GMT -4
"If Skepticism is the belief that nothing exists then you can't be a Skeptic due to the fact that in being a Skeptic you would have to believe in Skepticism despite the fact that Skeptics should doubt the existence of Skepticism. And yes, while it is all and well to doubt the existance of the world, due to the fact that there is nothing we can do to prove it either way then would it not be preferable to simply go on assuming that the universe, and everything in it, exists?"
Skepticism in the Pyrrhonian sense is to simply suspend judgement. Pyrrhonism is special in that asserts nothing, and suspends judgement even in most practical matters.
I, for one, have found it very practical.
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Post by passion fruit on Aug 27, 2016 21:08:33 GMT -4
hedonism
your time on earth isnt forever
so do as many drugs while you can
fuck people who say you shouldnt go after earthly pleasures
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Post by Dex on Aug 27, 2016 23:21:07 GMT -4
hedonism your time on earth isnt forever so do as many drugs while you can fuck people who say you shouldnt go after earthly pleasures You can go after earthly pleasures but you should enjoy the finer pleasures in life too. |
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Post by LeBlunder on Aug 27, 2016 23:33:31 GMT -4
The finer pleasures of pleasure.
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Post by passion fruit on Aug 28, 2016 0:11:26 GMT -4
what do you mean by finer pleasures
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Post by vammy on Sept 8, 2016 18:34:13 GMT -4
I enjoy Vamism
The belief of just letting shit happen and going with the flow as it doesn't end badly for you
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Post by Τι κοιτάς ρε on Sept 8, 2016 20:20:39 GMT -4
I don't follow any philosophy because that's just not having a personality of your own. I'm me and that's it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 21:21:34 GMT -4
Some pleasures aren't worth it
Drugs are a poison, and should be absolutely avoided unless for medical purposes
Anyway, my "philosophy" would fall neatly into libertariansim, as I have said in the past
You, as an individual, have the right to do whatever it is want to do (so long as it is within the law)
However, that doesn't mean I'll support, encourage or associate myself with every behavior
You have the right to poison your body with drugs, but I wont stand by you if you decide to go down that path
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Post by hygenisthygenist on Sept 8, 2016 21:26:32 GMT -4
Some pleasures aren't worth it Drugs are a poison, and should be absolutely avoided unless for medical purposes Anyway, my "philosophy" would fall neatly into libertariansim, as I have said in the past You, as an individual, have the right to do whatever it is want to do (so long as it is within the law) However, that doesn't mean I'll support, encourage or associate myself with every behavior You have the right to poison your body with drugs, but I wont stand by you if you decide to go down that path lol he thinks every illegal drug is bad4u Try some psychedelics first, hombre. Most of those aren't even physically addictive. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 21:37:21 GMT -4
Some pleasures aren't worth it Drugs are a poison, and should be absolutely avoided unless for medical purposes Anyway, my "philosophy" would fall neatly into libertariansim, as I have said in the past You, as an individual, have the right to do whatever it is want to do (so long as it is within the law) However, that doesn't mean I'll support, encourage or associate myself with every behavior You have the right to poison your body with drugs, but I wont stand by you if you decide to go down that path lol he thinks every illegal drug is bad4u Try some psychedelics first, hombre. Most of those aren't even physically addictive. Don't plan on taking drugs ever, thanks |
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Post by hygenisthygenist on Sept 8, 2016 21:39:04 GMT -4
lol he thinks every illegal drug is bad4u Try some psychedelics first, hombre. Most of those aren't even physically addictive. Don't plan on taking drugs ever, thanks Psychedelics would change your life, probably for the better. But anyways... Have fun being square, cowboy. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 21:46:22 GMT -4
Don't plan on taking drugs ever, thanks Psychedelics would change your life, probably for the better. But anyways... Have fun being square, cowboy. I'll have fun not fucking myself up by not getting addicted to garbage |
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Post by vammy on Sept 8, 2016 21:47:52 GMT -4
He thinks weed is going to mess you up, don't try to change Lego
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