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Post by 2grumpy2login on Jan 2, 2016 0:52:28 GMT -4
And I hate you.
Because. There is. A difference. Between. The FANBASE and the ACTUAL THING ITSELF.
so FUCK YOU for mixing them up
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Post by Eternity on Jan 2, 2016 2:27:39 GMT -4
cannot tell if rock is just being rock
or if this is b8
or if both
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Post by The Villa Strangiato on Jan 2, 2016 22:41:11 GMT -4
It's both
I do genuinely hate the game (lol convict me because that's a war crime) But I wanna see how ballsack nuts people will go over it
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Post by Eternity on Jan 2, 2016 22:46:12 GMT -4
It's both I do genuinely hate the game (lol convict me because that's a war crime) But I wanna see how ballsack nuts people will go over it okay i just want to know the exact reason why you hate it now
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Post by The Villa Strangiato on Jan 2, 2016 22:49:16 GMT -4
It's both I do genuinely hate the game (lol convict me because that's a war crime) But I wanna see how ballsack nuts people will go over it okay i just want to know the exact reason why you hate it now Glad you're being civil Short story: I'm tired of it being shoved down my throat, it being revered as the best thing ever, and the inability to avoid it whenever i use the internet Long story: to be continued somewhere back in time Which is greater, The Shining or Undertale? Blue Oyster Cult or Undertale? What's the difference between Blue oyster Cult, The Shining, and Undertale? BOC and The Shining are rightfully revered as innovative classics that set a new standard in writing and the music industry. If you wonder why I picked BOC and The Shining, is that they're both, in their respective terms, Horror and Weird Fiction (Pertaining to BOC) What's undertale have? Nothing. It's a game. A piece of media. There's nothing special about it. It's an Indie game. "But rock sempai, you don't have to kill people1! its unike!" If I didn't want to kill someone in a video game, I wouldn't be playing a shooter/RPG. Hidden in the f*cking spotlight of "you dont have to kill anyone" is Metal Gear Solid, which is way more innovative and beautiful than Underfart, pardon my French. The fanbase is shit. Moving on. See, I view underwear as a Communist Conspiracy. Why? Because most of the critics, from what I've heard, were IN CONTACT AND IN TOUCH WITH TOBY LOXX AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER. TELL ME THAT IS NOT A CONSPIRACY. Anybody on earth can make a 16 bit indie game. Sure, it'll take helluva long time, but screw time, when you can have 30,000$ thrown at you from Kickstarter. Undertale is a game, and only a game. There is nothing special about it, it's a game and I only respect it that much. Oh yes, and Toby Derp has balls to not milk the fanbase. That was an inconsistent review because I hate myself.
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Post by Eternity on Jan 2, 2016 22:51:40 GMT -4
okay i just want to know the exact reason why you hate it now Glad you're being civil Short story: I'm tired of it being shoved down my throat, it being revered as the best thing ever, and the inability to avoid it whenever i use the internet Long story: to be continued somewhere back in time okay i need to correct this then i hate the undertale fanbase* as an undertale player, i do admit that the undertale community is cringeworthy as fuck at the best of times and the shipping oh god the shipping
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Post by The Villa Strangiato on Jan 2, 2016 22:53:01 GMT -4
Glad you're being civil Short story: I'm tired of it being shoved down my throat, it being revered as the best thing ever, and the inability to avoid it whenever i use the internet Long story: to be continued somewhere back in time okay i need to correct this then i hate the undertale fanbase* as an undertale player, i do admit that the undertale community is cringeworthy as fuck at the best of times and the shipping oh god the shipping 1/3 of my hate is directed at the fanbase another 3rd is the game itself the last third is the reviewers and other crap
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Post by Eternity on Jan 2, 2016 22:58:46 GMT -4
okay i need to correct this then i hate the undertale fanbase* as an undertale player, i do admit that the undertale community is cringeworthy as fuck at the best of times and the shipping oh god the shipping 1/3 of my hate is directed at the fanbase another 3rd is the game itself the last third is the reviewers and other crap what's so bad about the game that it gets a section of hatred equal in size to the community?
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Post by The Villa Strangiato on Jan 2, 2016 23:10:01 GMT -4
1/3 of my hate is directed at the fanbase another 3rd is the game itself the last third is the reviewers and other crap what's so bad about the game that it gets a section of hatred equal in size to the community? The game likes to present itself as the greatest thing in the history of anything ever with its "unique" battle system of you don't have to kill anyone. If that's you're only selling point you are bad and you should feel bad. Look, if you like Underwear, that's great. I don't care. Keep it out of sight and out of mind, and I'll respect you. I am inconsistent and I hate myself.
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Post by Eternity on Jan 2, 2016 23:23:15 GMT -4
okay i just want to know the exact reason why you hate it now Glad you're being civil Short story: I'm tired of it being shoved down my throat, it being revered as the best thing ever, and the inability to avoid it whenever i use the internet Long story: to be continued somewhere back in time Which is greater, The Shining or Undertale? Blue Oyster Cult or Undertale? What's the difference between Blue oyster Cult, The Shining, and Undertale? BOC and The Shining are rightfully revered as innovative classics that set a new standard in writing and the music industry. If you wonder why I picked BOC and The Shining, is that they're both, in their respective terms, Horror and Weird Fiction (Pertaining to BOC) What's undertale have? Nothing. It's a game. A piece of media. There's nothing special about it. It's an Indie game. "But rock sempai, you don't have to kill people1! its unike!" If I didn't want to kill someone in a video game, I wouldn't be playing a shooter/RPG. Hidden in the f*cking spotlight of "you dont have to kill anyone" is Metal Gear Solid, which is way more innovative and beautiful than Underfart, pardon my French. The fanbase is shit. Moving on. See, I view underwear as a Communist Conspiracy. Why? Because most of the critics, from what I've heard, were IN CONTACT AND IN TOUCH WITH TOBY LOXX AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER. TELL ME THAT IS NOT A CONSPIRACY. Anybody on earth can make a 16 bit indie game. Sure, it'll take helluva long time, but screw time, when you can have 30,000$ thrown at you from Kickstarter. Undertale is a game, and only a game. There is nothing special about it, it's a game and I only respect it that much. Oh yes, and Toby Derp has balls to not milk the fanbase. That was an inconsistent review because I hate myself. holy shit that was cancerous
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Post by The Villa Strangiato on Jan 2, 2016 23:24:16 GMT -4
Glad you're being civil Short story: I'm tired of it being shoved down my throat, it being revered as the best thing ever, and the inability to avoid it whenever i use the internet Long story: to be continued somewhere back in time Which is greater, The Shining or Undertale? Blue Oyster Cult or Undertale? What's the difference between Blue oyster Cult, The Shining, and Undertale? BOC and The Shining are rightfully revered as innovative classics that set a new standard in writing and the music industry. If you wonder why I picked BOC and The Shining, is that they're both, in their respective terms, Horror and Weird Fiction (Pertaining to BOC) What's undertale have? Nothing. It's a game. A piece of media. There's nothing special about it. It's an Indie game. "But rock sempai, you don't have to kill people1! its unike!" If I didn't want to kill someone in a video game, I wouldn't be playing a shooter/RPG. Hidden in the f*cking spotlight of "you dont have to kill anyone" is Metal Gear Solid, which is way more innovative and beautiful than Underfart, pardon my French. The fanbase is shit. Moving on. See, I view underwear as a Communist Conspiracy. Why? Because most of the critics, from what I've heard, were IN CONTACT AND IN TOUCH WITH TOBY LOXX AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER. TELL ME THAT IS NOT A CONSPIRACY. Anybody on earth can make a 16 bit indie game. Sure, it'll take helluva long time, but screw time, when you can have 30,000$ thrown at you from Kickstarter. Undertale is a game, and only a game. There is nothing special about it, it's a game and I only respect it that much. Oh yes, and Toby Derp has balls to not milk the fanbase. That was an inconsistent review because I hate myself. holy shit that was cancerous happy hanukkah
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Post by Eternity on Jan 3, 2016 0:00:52 GMT -4
So, uh, I guess I'll just put in my opinion about all of that.
I'd say that you're thinking about the game in a more serious light than it actually is.
Undertale isn't trying to be genre-defining or anything like that. I'd say the game is trying to re-examine the genre more than anything else.
A large portion of the game is trying to examine the player's actions and how they affect the world. The game isn't trying to say "OMG ALL RPGS SHOULD HAVE NO-KILL ABILITIES", it's trying to say "What if your actions actually mattered?" I mean, it's a ROLE PLAYING GAME. Shouldn't it matter how you fill the shoes of the protagonist?
I mean, in most games you're going to end up in the same spot no matter what sort of player you are. Going back to the topic of Metal Gear Solid, while there is a no-kill way to play, it doesn't really matter if you kill or not. Whether your killcount is 0 or 2000, you're always going to be the hero of the story.
In Undertale, the game tries to punish you for your actions not through a score or grade on performance, but by actually altering the story and characters depending on what you do. I think instead of Metal Gear, a better comparison with the game might have been Dishonored, where your actions actually affected the city around you. You kill people, you're going to be the bad guy because of it.
Next point.
Yes, the fanbase is shit, but that's no reason to hate the game by itself. Hate the players, not the game.
And as for the "anyone can make an 8-bit RPG". Yes, anyone can. But it's gotta be pretty hard to put together a game with a lot of depth and personality, as well as an entertaining battle system that's at least relatively unique. It takes time, dedication, and a hellavu lot of creativity to put together an entire game by yourself. And you can't really blame Toby for people giving him as much money as they did. I mean, at least he delivered on all of his promises, unlike most kickstarter campaigns.
And the Communism thing doesn't even make sense I mean wtf man. Critics are ALWAYS in contact with the creators of the games they review. They have to be, otherwise there might be a huge misunderstanding in the review of the game.
I think that's all I've got.
happy hannuchristmas
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 11:05:55 GMT -4
So, uh, I guess I'll just put in my opinion about all of that. I'd say that you're thinking about the game in a more serious light than it actually is. Undertale isn't trying to be genre-defining or anything like that. I'd say the game is trying to re-examine the genre more than anything else. A large portion of the game is trying to examine the player's actions and how they affect the world. The game isn't trying to say "OMG ALL RPGS SHOULD HAVE NO-KILL ABILITIES", it's trying to say "What if your actions actually mattered?" I mean, it's a ROLE PLAYING GAME. Shouldn't it matter how you fill the shoes of the protagonist? I mean, in most games you're going to end up in the same spot no matter what sort of player you are. Going back to the topic of Metal Gear Solid, while there is a no-kill way to play, it doesn't really matter if you kill or not. Whether your killcount is 0 or 2000, you're always going to be the hero of the story. In Undertale, the game tries to punish you for your actions not through a score or grade on performance, but by actually altering the story and characters depending on what you do. I think instead of Metal Gear, a better comparison with the game might have been Dishonored, where your actions actually affected the city around you. You kill people, you're going to be the bad guy because of it. Next point. Yes, the fanbase is shit, but that's no reason to hate the game by itself. Hate the players, not the game. And as for the "anyone can make an 8-bit RPG". Yes, anyone can. But it's gotta be pretty hard to put together a game with a lot of depth and personality, as well as an entertaining battle system that's at least relatively unique. It takes time, dedication, and a hellavu lot of creativity to put together an entire game by yourself. And you can't really blame Toby for people giving him as much money as they did. I mean, at least he delivered on all of his promises, unlike most kickstarter campaigns. And the Communism thing doesn't even make sense I mean wtf man. Critics are ALWAYS in contact with the creators of the games they review. They have to be, otherwise there might be a huge misunderstanding in the review of the game. I think that's all I've got. happy hannuchristmas this is way better than whatever I would have come up with to say
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Post by Tol on Jan 3, 2016 14:55:11 GMT -4
Fanbase is absolutely disgusting. That's what happens when something becomes popular and mainstream within weeks or months. That fucking soundtrack though.
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Post by Sean Max on Jan 19, 2016 17:26:03 GMT -4
cannot tell if rock is just being rock or if this is b8 or if both its both.
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Post by Baise-moi on Jan 21, 2016 18:06:57 GMT -4
Undertale isn't anything for the internet to explode over and become the new most overexposed fandom just because of the soundtrack or the fact that it's made by two people. Enough said. Though I have to admit, that is rather impressive.
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Post by eloos on Jan 31, 2016 3:11:46 GMT -4
So, uh, I guess I'll just put in my opinion about all of that. I'd say that you're thinking about the game in a more serious light than it actually is. Undertale isn't trying to be genre-defining or anything like that. I'd say the game is trying to re-examine the genre more than anything else. A large portion of the game is trying to examine the player's actions and how they affect the world. The game isn't trying to say "OMG ALL RPGS SHOULD HAVE NO-KILL ABILITIES", it's trying to say "What if your actions actually mattered?" I mean, it's a ROLE PLAYING GAME. Shouldn't it matter how you fill the shoes of the protagonist? I mean, in most games you're going to end up in the same spot no matter what sort of player you are. Going back to the topic of Metal Gear Solid, while there is a no-kill way to play, it doesn't really matter if you kill or not. Whether your killcount is 0 or 2000, you're always going to be the hero of the story. In Undertale, the game tries to punish you for your actions not through a score or grade on performance, but by actually altering the story and characters depending on what you do. I think instead of Metal Gear, a better comparison with the game might have been Dishonored, where your actions actually affected the city around you. You kill people, you're going to be the bad guy because of it. Next point. Yes, the fanbase is shit, but that's no reason to hate the game by itself. Hate the players, not the game. And as for the "anyone can make an 8-bit RPG". Yes, anyone can. But it's gotta be pretty hard to put together a game with a lot of depth and personality, as well as an entertaining battle system that's at least relatively unique. It takes time, dedication, and a hellavu lot of creativity to put together an entire game by yourself. And you can't really blame Toby for people giving him as much money as they did. I mean, at least he delivered on all of his promises, unlike most kickstarter campaigns. And the Communism thing doesn't even make sense I mean wtf man. Critics are ALWAYS in contact with the creators of the games they review. They have to be, otherwise there might be a huge misunderstanding in the review of the game. I think that's all I've got. happy hannuchristmas that's why dishonored will always be the best
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Post by Roq on Sept 28, 2016 14:26:04 GMT -4
And rock didn't even reply yet.... I guess he realized he screwed up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 15:20:58 GMT -4
Rock was a shitter then, and a shitter now It's funny how nothing changes
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Post by Roq on Sept 28, 2016 15:26:07 GMT -4
Rock was a shitter then, and a shitter now It's funny how nothing changes I second that.
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Post by The Villa Strangiato on Sept 28, 2016 16:43:54 GMT -4
Hormonal induced rage, amirite?
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Post by LNG257 on Sept 28, 2016 16:54:36 GMT -4
I'll just say that I intensely dislike Undertale as well.
Brand me a heretic if you must.
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Post by Death on Sept 28, 2016 16:55:44 GMT -4
If I could ask the fandom one thing it would be:
"Why the hell do you want to fuck a skeleton that THREATENS YOU THROUGHOUT THEE GAME no matter if you're some goody two shoes or a fucking genocidal maniac? He has hundred of bones, but he don't have a 'bone' if ya know what I mean."
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Post by Roq on Sept 28, 2016 16:59:36 GMT -4
If I could ask the fandom one thing it would be: "Why the hell do you want to fuck a skeleton that THREATENS YOU THROUGHOUT THEE GAME no matter if you're some goody two shoes or a fucking genocidal maniac? He has hundred of bones, but he don't have a 'bone' if ya know what I mean." I would ask them. "Are you guys mental or something? You ship Papyrus with Sans? What's wrong with you people. We all know that Papyrus only loves spaghetti."
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