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Post by Death on Jul 14, 2015 2:45:41 GMT -4
Northern Ireland isn't a country, it's a 'province' under British rule. If that were true, Canada wouldn't be a legitimate country, due to the fact that is was created by Britain and was owned by Britain up until recent history.
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Post by Baise-moi on Jul 14, 2015 2:55:14 GMT -4
Sorry to say, prec is right.
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Post by Duck14 on Jul 14, 2015 2:55:07 GMT -4
You can't compare Canada and Northern Ireland as if they are one and the same just because Britain had them both at one point in time. Canada like Australia, New Zealand and other countries would have had some form of federation in which they became a legitimate country in their own right despite being part of the Commonwealth. However, Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom and is therefore despite being a country (like England, Wales and Scotland) still part of Britain which is why it has the same government as the other three.
Prec is right.
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Post by The Jiggler on Jul 14, 2015 2:59:34 GMT -4
<3
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Post by Death on Jul 14, 2015 3:10:41 GMT -4
That's not what I mean. What I mean is he called N.I part of England, not the UK.
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Post by The Jiggler on Jul 14, 2015 3:14:23 GMT -4
I said England because I thought you lived there. You corrected me and said you lived in North Ireland. I said it's the same thing 'cause they're all initially under the single banner of the country known as the U.K.
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Post by Death on Jul 14, 2015 3:16:33 GMT -4
No, you didn't say the UK, you said they are 'all under the same banner'. Believe it or not Prec, not everybody on the internet has thick skin.
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Post by Bannanachair on Jul 14, 2015 3:19:29 GMT -4
I said England because I thought you lived there. You corrected me and said you lived in North Ireland. I said it's the same thing 'cause they're all initially under the single banner of the country known as the U.K. Actually, they were initially separate countries and they remained that way until 1800.
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Post by The Jiggler on Jul 14, 2015 3:25:00 GMT -4
I said England because I thought you lived there. You corrected me and said you lived in North Ireland. I said it's the same thing 'cause they're all initially under the single banner of the country known as the U.K. Actually, they were initially separate countries and they remained that way until 1800. True. And Tails, they are all under the same banner.
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Post by Bannanachair on Jul 14, 2015 3:47:46 GMT -4
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Post by The Jiggler on Jul 14, 2015 3:54:08 GMT -4
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Post by Bannanachair on Jul 14, 2015 4:00:09 GMT -4
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Post by Duck14 on Jul 14, 2015 6:17:19 GMT -4
By that logic the United Nations is one country.
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Post by eloos on Jul 14, 2015 10:12:17 GMT -4
by that logic, im a fish stick
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Post by Τι κοιτάς ρε on Jul 14, 2015 11:26:55 GMT -4
Technically NI has no flag.
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Post by Ivy on Jul 14, 2015 12:30:28 GMT -4
To my slightly less extensive knowledge, they were all separate countries but are all still under British rule.
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Post by The Jiggler on Jul 14, 2015 12:55:58 GMT -4
May 1st, 1707 - The Kingdom of United Britain came to be by the Scottish and English parliaments to enact the Treaty of Union. (This includes Wales.) So now, it's just the Irish and the British. 1801 - The Kingdom of United Britain and Ireland pass an Act of Union creating the United Kingdom (of Great Britain and Ireland). 1921 - The rise of Irish Nationalism forces the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland to which led to the Partition of Ireland, having North Ireland and South Ireland become two separate distinct territories. 1922 - The Free State of Ireland becomes independent, becoming the Republic of Ireland.
Although that before 1707, all Kingdoms of the Britannia were independent aside from Wales which conjoined with England in 1535/1542. So due to the major rise in Irish Nationalism in 1921, the United Kingdom decided to give most of Ireland back to the Irish and only keep the northernmost part for the United Kingdom. Plus it's not the United Kingdoms. It's the United Kingdom... of Great Britain and North Ireland. So initially, North Ireland is thrown in under the name commonly used by the majority of the other world's people. Although now that I have done research and read through the history of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia, I understand that the British parliament does actually believe Ireland to be separate.
Either that or they just extend it to "...and North Ireland" due to its separation from mainland-Britannia.
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Post by Sean Max on Jul 29, 2015 14:04:45 GMT -4
Northern Ireland isn't a country, it's a 'province' under British rule. If that were true, Canada wouldn't be a legitimate country, due to the fact that is was created by Britain and was owned by Britain up until recent history. Prec's right. I thought I'd never say it, but Prec's right. Also, with that logic, then the US isn't a legitimate country.
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