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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 21:27:34 GMT -4
am curious on what people's thoughts here are
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Post by Baise-moi on Apr 15, 2017 22:04:58 GMT -4
Ooh, brings me to another point.
Why do people think pansexual, or anything outside of bi, homosexual or heterosexual has to be a thing?
Sexuality is based entirely off of...sex. Genetic stuff, biological stuff. So even the "gender is a social construct" or "gender and sex are different!" arguments cannot be used here, regardless of whether or not you agree with it.
Well anyway, I firmly believe in only two (maybe three if you count being born with genitals that don't fit male or female) genders, and that the social construct and any similar argument is just some made up nonsense. But I suppose as long as someone doesn't bother me about it I couldn't really care less.
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Post by Bannanachair on Apr 15, 2017 22:12:52 GMT -4
Ooh, brings me to another point. Why do people think pansexual, or anything outside of bi, homosexual or heterosexual has to be a thing? Sexuality is based entirely off of...sex. Genetic stuff, biological stuff. So even the "gender is a social construct" or "gender and sex are different!" arguments cannot be used here, regardless of whether or not you agree with it. Aside from bisexual, homosexual and heterosexual you can also have asexual (feeling no sexual attraction to anyone), hyposexual (feeling a significantly lesser sexual desire that ordinary people; can be matched with any of the three that you provided) and hypersexual (having an extremely high libido - higher than most teenagers). If you further include the specifics of people's sexual desires you could argue that furries are their own sexual orientation or that people who prefer orgies over single-partner sex are their own sexual orientation - it's all a matter of definitions. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 22:22:52 GMT -4
there's also demisexual, but that's a part of the ace spectrum
and sorry but why are we talking about sexuality here? this was a gender poll
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Post by Tikobe on Apr 16, 2017 2:15:58 GMT -4
I identify as an apache attack helicopter.
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Post by Dex on Apr 16, 2017 17:29:08 GMT -4
>no option to be an android
>only filthy helicopter
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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Post by hygenisthygenist on Apr 16, 2017 17:37:30 GMT -4
The human soul is without gender.
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Post by Death on Apr 16, 2017 18:56:16 GMT -4
I identify as an Ork, you fucking misogynist
Cis gendered scum
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 19:11:29 GMT -4
I identify as an Ork, you fucking misogynist Cis gendered scum >mysogynist look man, if you're gonna joke at least make sure you're using the right words for the context |
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Post by Death on Apr 16, 2017 19:21:35 GMT -4
I identify as an Ork, you fucking misogynist Cis gendered scum >mysogynist look man, if you're gonna joke at least make sure you're using the right words for the context 'man' pterodactyl screech |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 19:47:01 GMT -4
(maybe three if you count being born with genitals that don't fit male or female) It's interesting, as, biologically, this doesn't equate to any kind of third gender anyway See, the fun thing about chromosomes is that you can always use them to tell someone's sex. XX is female, XY is male. However, it isn't limited to these two combinations If you have a Y chromosome, regardless of the combination, you are biologically a male If you do not have a Y chromosome, wherein there really are no combinations outside of XX + however many more Xs, you are female Let's say your chromosomes are fucked up royally, and you've ended up with a combination something along the lines of "XXYXYX, or something Thanks to the presence of those Y chromosomes, no matter how crazy you look under your pants, you are biologically a male Truthfully, I think it's a silly thing to fight against our biology. I don't think it's right to stop anyone from doing as such, of course, but I've always considered it a silly concept. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 19:51:50 GMT -4
intersex
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Post by Death on Apr 16, 2017 19:54:35 GMT -4
(maybe three if you count being born with genitals that don't fit male or female) It's interesting, as, biologically, this doesn't equate to any kind of third gender anyway See, the fun thing about chromosomes is that you can always use them to tell someone's sex. XX is female, XY is male. However, it isn't limited to these two combinations If you have a Y chromosome, regardless of the combination, you are biologically a male If you do not have a Y chromosome, wherein there really are no combinations outside of XX + however many more Xs, you are female Let's say your chromosomes are fucked up royally, and you've ended up with a combination something along the lines of "XXYXYX, or something Thanks to the presence of those Y chromosomes, no matter how crazy you look under your pants, you are biologically a male Truthfully, I think it's a silly thing to fight against our biology. I don't think it's right to stop anyone from doing as such, of course, but I've always considered it a silly concept. This is made more poignant when you consider the fact that Lego has a Doctor Venture avatar, which makes this a bit more humorous considering Doc's character. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 19:57:42 GMT -4
Was this in reply to me? If so, my point about biology still stands as is If an intersex person is born with a Y chromosome, they are male If they are born lacking a Y chromosome, then they are female |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 19:59:01 GMT -4
It's interesting, as, biologically, this doesn't equate to any kind of third gender anyway See, the fun thing about chromosomes is that you can always use them to tell someone's sex. XX is female, XY is male. However, it isn't limited to these two combinations If you have a Y chromosome, regardless of the combination, you are biologically a male If you do not have a Y chromosome, wherein there really are no combinations outside of XX + however many more Xs, you are female Let's say your chromosomes are fucked up royally, and you've ended up with a combination something along the lines of "XXYXYX, or something Thanks to the presence of those Y chromosomes, no matter how crazy you look under your pants, you are biologically a male Truthfully, I think it's a silly thing to fight against our biology. I don't think it's right to stop anyone from doing as such, of course, but I've always considered it a silly concept. This is made more poignant when you consider the fact that Lego has a Doctor Venture avatar, which makes this a bit more humorous considering Doc's character. The Venture Brothers is a quality show and I cannot cease binge watching clips of it please send help |
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Post by MrStilts on Apr 16, 2017 20:03:25 GMT -4
I'm always for people wanting to express themselves as how they feel should be expressed. Though, admittedly, I find some of the combinations they use are rather confusing and arbitrary to me.
Then again, that could also probably be said of the human condition in general, so perhaps we shouldn't really judge.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 20:05:05 GMT -4
I should clarify though, in cases where your genitals are so fucked up, as in the case of someone who is intersex, I think it's fine to identify as whatever the fuck you want in that case. It's such a rare condition that you've earned the right to be a special snowflake
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Post by eloos on Apr 16, 2017 21:15:08 GMT -4
as stupid as i think trying to change who you are is, a person is a person and, no matter how insane they are to me, im going to treat them as such
although the people that try to claim there's more than 2 genders kind of piss me off
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Post by Bannanachair on Apr 16, 2017 21:47:02 GMT -4
If someone wants to undergo an expensive procedure to change their own genitals I have no qualms with it because it does not effect me in the slightest.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 22:01:23 GMT -4
i used to hold the belief that people should just stick to their biological sex, partly because i was still following my mother, who hates gays, trans, and 90% of the lgbt+ people out there
i said in a conversation to her that maybe, maybe trans people don't even know who they are! and they're denying who they truly are by going against who they really are!
then i realized that was stupid, and sex doesn't determine your identity
and i learned that a gender is just a name people put on things
he. she. whoever. it's a name you're stuck with at birth.
some people wanna change that?
people wanna be called something else? something they actually chose for themself?
good for them.
it didn't matter if i agreed with them or not; i respect their choice because i respect them.
and honestly? if people wanna choose their own pronouns and break down these stupid gender norms that have been plaguing society for generations? that's great.
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Post by eloos on Apr 16, 2017 22:06:02 GMT -4
i used to not agree with gays or bis or trans or whatever because i needed to be a good christian boy right???
then i stopped believing and found out my girlfriend and multiple other friends were bisexual, and one of my closer friends were gay
and i was like
"why th efuck should it matter"
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Post by Bannanachair on Apr 16, 2017 22:26:05 GMT -4
List of instances when I care about what genitals someone has:
1) When I want to have sex (I think; I've never done it so I don't really know)
2) For a dinner with me and Mike Pence but without Mike Pence's wife
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Post by Death on Apr 17, 2017 3:44:11 GMT -4
i used to hold the belief that people should just stick to their biological sex, partly because i was still following my mother, who hates gays, trans, and 90% of the lgbt+ people out there i said in a conversation to her that maybe, maybe trans people don't even know who they are! and they're denying who they truly are by going against who they really are! then i realized that was stupid, and sex doesn't determine your identity and i learned that a gender is just a name people put on things he. she. whoever. it's a name you're stuck with at birth. some people wanna change that? people wanna be called something else? something they actually chose for themself? good for them. it didn't matter if i agreed with them or not; i respect their choice because i respect them. and honestly? if people wanna choose their own pronouns and break down these stupid gender norms that have been plaguing society for generations? that's great. That's almost identical to my actual opinion on the matter. Sorry if I came off as an asshole earlier it's just I am surrounded by people who get so pissed off by these things and waste precious time and breath arguing about it. |
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Post by God Bebi Satan on Apr 17, 2017 3:46:27 GMT -4
if i had a testicle for every gender there was i'd have another testicle.
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Post by Craxian on May 4, 2017 19:42:32 GMT -4
he. she. whoever. it's a name you're stuck with at birth. some people wanna change that? people wanna be called something else? something they actually chose for themself? good for them. it didn't matter if i agreed with them or not; i respect their choice because i respect them. and honestly? if people wanna choose their own pronouns and break down these stupid gender norms that have been plaguing society for generations? that's great. yeah, same here. that's pretty much how i look at it. |
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