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Post by The Villa Strangiato on Oct 22, 2016 0:00:17 GMT -4
The more and more I look into how many corporations and people are so deep into Hillary's pockets, the more I hear about Trump supporters blab on about armed insurrection if Hillary wins, the closer I realize the world is closest to nuclear anhilation since the Cuban Missile Crisis. I don't think all of us will even live to see 2020.
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Post by Τι κοιτάς ρε on Oct 22, 2016 0:27:26 GMT -4
I think you're overreacting a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 0:38:24 GMT -4
It's the second cold war, friend. Tensions with Russia are at the highest they've been since the first cold war, Russia is crumbling from within, and we're fighting proxy wars. Only difference is that we're fighting proxy wars in the middle east instead of Asia, and our next president won't be as good a speaker as Reagan
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Post by Eternity 2.0 on Oct 22, 2016 0:52:25 GMT -4
or we'll end up with a shit president that no one will remember in twenty years
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calm your asses
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 0:57:37 GMT -4
or we'll end up with a shit president that no one will remember in twenty years guys calm your asses Or we'll end up with a no fly zone in Syria and then WWIII |
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Post by Eternity 2.0 on Oct 22, 2016 1:09:51 GMT -4
or we'll end up with a shit president that no one will remember in twenty years guys calm your asses Or we'll end up with a no fly zone in Syria and then WWIII  *giant for emphasis and also because i didn't want to resize the image |
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Post by passion fruit on Oct 22, 2016 1:12:08 GMT -4
b-but we're 'murcia
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 1:21:16 GMT -4
Or we'll end up with a no fly zone in Syria and then WWIII *giant for emphasis and also because i didn't want to resize the image Ignoring possibilities is fine until we start getting into the very real possibility of nuclear apocalypse |
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Post by Murmansk on Oct 22, 2016 1:22:13 GMT -4
We will all just die in a fiery, matter-of-seconds, messy atomic blast anyways.
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Post by vammy on Oct 22, 2016 1:51:13 GMT -4
Every great superpower and empire has either died or greatly downsized; America's time will probably come sooner or later we have been slowly losing our superpower status for years now. I just hope the whole nation doesn't fuck itself in my lifetime.
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Post by Duck14 on Oct 22, 2016 2:02:01 GMT -4
Eh, the question is how much will either side actually get to do if they were elected?
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Post by vammy on Oct 22, 2016 2:06:00 GMT -4
Due to republicans controlling every part of congress Hillary will have a hard time getting anything passed that isn't obvious. (A pay raise for all congress members, something they accept if even I suggested it)
Trump has the problem of not being very well liked even in his own party which will also limit his power, especially if he actually tries to make a wall. ( A wall across the US border would be the most expensive project in US history, as well it would cost the entire budget of NASA)
So neither one of them would get much done, but their both shits who will try
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Post by The Villa Strangiato on Oct 22, 2016 9:37:17 GMT -4
The problem is that Hillary is not in bed with Russia but trump is. We have the choice of third world war if Hillary is elected, plus riots from trump supporters, or we basically become North Korea with a trump victory. Time to build a backyard shelter, I guess.
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Post by Bannanachair on Oct 22, 2016 9:44:07 GMT -4
Hillary will be a bad, ineffective and corrupt president - I'm not disputing that. However, Trump is a neofascist who will by executive order (as revealed in either the 1st or 2nd debate, I forget) have his political opponents jailed. That is fucking unprecedented in America or any modern first world country. To add to that, third parties don't stand a chance (and I think that John Oliver explained quite well what's wrong with both Johnson and Stein, though I think a president not knowing where one of the worlds major conflicts is is obviously bad anyway). The only vote that can save America from destruction is Hillary (we've survived one Clinton, we can survive another) and even then I don't trust what Trump might do if he doesn't win.
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Post by Death on Oct 22, 2016 9:44:38 GMT -4
The problem is that Hillary is not in bed with Russia but trump is. We have the choice of third world war if Hillary is elected, plus riots from trump supporters, or we basically become North Korea with a trump victory. Time to build a backyard shelter, I guess. And the U.K and Europe is stuck in-between the two. |
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Post by Bannanachair on Oct 22, 2016 9:48:53 GMT -4
I miss the 2012 and 2008 elections where both candidates would have made decent presidents and both candidates in both of those elections actually legitimately cared about America. Obama's a good president in my opinion (Obamacare isn't as effective as advertised but it's hard on him being a lame duck with congress and the supreme court against him and it's still better than what existed before it), Romney was a pretty decent guy (he supported big business but some amount of big business is needed to support an economy) and John McCain was a fucking war hero - if Obama could run for term 3, or if either McCain or Romney could run again (or if Kasich or Jeb Bush won the Republican ticket) or if O'Malley, Biden or Gore had the Democrats or if Bloomberg were running for either party really we'd have better options, but this year just sucks.
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Post by Bannanachair on Oct 22, 2016 9:52:04 GMT -4
Also all of us are too young to vote and the only person here who I know for a fact to be over 18 is Duck who isn't an American so us discussing politics is like if we were to plan an invasion of Russia or something.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 10:00:04 GMT -4
Hillary will be a bad, ineffective and corrupt president - I'm not disputing that. However, Trump is a neofascist who will by executive order (as revealed in either the 1st or 2nd debate, I forget) have his political opponents jailed. That is fucking unprecedented in America or any modern first world country. To add to that, third parties don't stand a chance (and I think that John Oliver explained quite well what's wrong with both Johnson and Stein, though I think a president not knowing where one of the worlds major conflicts is is obviously bad anyway). The only vote that can save America from destruction is Hillary (we've survived one Clinton, we can survive another) and even then I don't trust what Trump might do if he doesn't win. They'd both equally fuck up America There is no in between Neither of them are really better then the other I just don't want Hillary putting a no-fly zone in Syria Because that's how you start WWIII with a desperate and declining Russia Now, I think anyone worth their shit in congress will deny that proposition But the fact alone that she thinks that's a good idea scares me more then any of the retarded bullshit Trump has said |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 10:05:26 GMT -4
The problem is that Hillary is not in bed with Russia but trump is. We have the choice of third world war if Hillary is elected, plus riots from trump supporters, or we basically become North Korea with a trump victory. Time to build a backyard shelter, I guess. It's really entertaining listening to you talk politics, Rocky Because you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about |
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Post by Bannanachair on Oct 22, 2016 10:08:36 GMT -4
Hillary will be a bad, ineffective and corrupt president - I'm not disputing that. However, Trump is a neofascist who will by executive order (as revealed in either the 1st or 2nd debate, I forget) have his political opponents jailed. That is fucking unprecedented in America or any modern first world country. To add to that, third parties don't stand a chance (and I think that John Oliver explained quite well what's wrong with both Johnson and Stein, though I think a president not knowing where one of the worlds major conflicts is is obviously bad anyway). The only vote that can save America from destruction is Hillary (we've survived one Clinton, we can survive another) and even then I don't trust what Trump might do if he doesn't win. They'd both equally fuck up America There is no in between Neither of them are really better then the other I just don't want Hillary putting a no-fly zone in Syria Because that's how you start WWIII with a desperate and declining Russia Now, I think anyone worth their shit in congress will deny that proposition But the fact alone that she thinks that's a good idea scares me more then any of the retarded bullshit Trump has said Hillary has precedent for largely hostile actions towards Russia and Russian allies. Trump's a neofascist. I would like to quickly amend my statement to point out that I am in no way supporting Hillary's decision here, but she flip-flops enough anyway for me to be relatively certain that once more people are aware of this plan she'll have never supported it to begin with, like the TPP. |
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Post by The Villa Strangiato on Oct 22, 2016 10:11:33 GMT -4
The problem is that Hillary is not in bed with Russia but trump is. We have the choice of third world war if Hillary is elected, plus riots from trump supporters, or we basically become North Korea with a trump victory. Time to build a backyard shelter, I guess. It's really entertaining listening to you talk politics, Rocky Because you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about I know, right? It's like reading something Ben Carson would say! |
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Post by katt on Oct 22, 2016 10:17:02 GMT -4
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Post by Bannanachair on Oct 22, 2016 10:23:30 GMT -4
That article casually mentioned the Baltics and reminded me of why an isolationist America under Trump would still likely cause WWIII or some similar event - if Russia annexes the Baltics, all three of which are members of the EU, that would bring other EU countries and their allies into the war. Even with Brexit I'm willing to bet that the UK and her empire would side with Europe in this conflict, and with no America as a deterrent against that course of action the five to six hundred nukes between France and the UK would be no match for the approx. 8,000 nukes that Russia has (and they wouldn't even need to use all of them to win the war and still be a major global power). |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 10:25:32 GMT -4
They'd both equally fuck up America There is no in between Neither of them are really better then the other I just don't want Hillary putting a no-fly zone in Syria Because that's how you start WWIII with a desperate and declining Russia Now, I think anyone worth their shit in congress will deny that proposition But the fact alone that she thinks that's a good idea scares me more then any of the retarded bullshit Trump has said Hillary has precedent for largely hostile actions towards Russia and Russian allies. Trump's a neofascist. I would like to quickly amend my statement to point out that I am in no way supporting Hillary's decision here, but she flip-flops enough anyway for me to be relatively certain that once more people are aware of this plan she'll have never supported it to begin with, like the TPP. Understandable, but once again, it scares me that the idea of a no-fly zone over Syria ever went through her head in the first place |
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Post by Bannanachair on Oct 22, 2016 10:27:04 GMT -4
Hillary has precedent for largely hostile actions towards Russia and Russian allies. Trump's a neofascist. I would like to quickly amend my statement to point out that I am in no way supporting Hillary's decision here, but she flip-flops enough anyway for me to be relatively certain that once more people are aware of this plan she'll have never supported it to begin with, like the TPP. Understandable, but once again, it scares me that the idea of a no-fly zone over Syria ever went through her head in the first place Even if she does threaten to go through with it and somehow congress backs her the same thing that saved us time and time again in the 20th century I trust will save us once more - mutually assured destruction. |
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