well...

[caicee]

apparently the world is gonna end.

i'm not gonna miss any of you.

[Dex]

I doubt the world will end this soon. We managed to get a very stable star and we are pretty good in the habitable zone. The moon has taken most of our biggest hits with asteroids being more unlikely everyday as gravity is being relatively nice in that department.

Our healthcare has gotten pretty good and is getting better everyday so plague is unlikely. No wars are happening besides the middle-east but the terrorists appear not to have nuclear weapons so nuclear war is unlikely. Alien invasion is also stupidly unlikely as we hold a very tiny bit of space and alien life in probability, is very different to our life they probably don't know what the conditions to life are besides their home-planet conditions. We're not even close to nano-tech so gray goo scenarios are unlikely.

I don't feel very threatened by AI as they are currently limited in capability, it took 40 minutes for the world's largest "super-computer" to simulate a second of human-level thought and in probability the software for the actual second of thought wasn't very good. Global warming is very slow so I doubt we'll be cooked until 50 years from now. The sun is only going to die in a billion years unless some alien civilization decides to blow it up. Rioting and freedom of speech is being constantly limited by surveillance and the militarization of police so I doubt we'll get any good rebellions.

So most actual world-ending scenarios aren't happening soon.

[Baise-moi]

To be honest there's a new claim that the world will end every year so I'm not too worried

[Bannanachair]

Jul 30, 2016 7:46:05 GMT -4 Dex said:

I doubt the world will end this soon. We managed to get a very stable star and we are pretty good in the habitable zone. The moon has taken most of our biggest hits with asteroids being more unlikely everyday as gravity is being relatively nice in that department.

Our healthcare has gotten pretty good and is getting better everyday so plague is unlikely. No wars are happening besides the middle-east but the terrorists appear not to have nuclear weapons so nuclear war is unlikely. Alien invasion is also stupidly unlikely as we hold a very tiny bit of space and alien life in probability, is very different to our life they probably don't know what the conditions to life are besides their home-planet conditions. We're not even close to nano-tech so gray goo scenarios are unlikely.

I don't feel very threatened by AI as they are currently limited in capability, it took 40 minutes for the world's largest "super-computer" to simulate a second of human-level thought and in probability the software for the actual second of thought wasn't very good. Global warming is very slow so I doubt we'll be cooked until 50 years from now. The sun is only going to die in a billion years unless some alien civilization decides to blow it up. Rioting and freedom of speech is being constantly limited by surveillance and the militarization of police so I doubt we'll get any good rebellions.

So most actual world-ending scenarios aren't happening soon.

You didn't account for a Trump presidency.

[Dex]

The chance of riots is low(Even if they do happen what would they riot about? A candidate that they don't like got elected?) and I don't think Trump wants to solicit war like you think he does. Tim you are being opinionated and biased, therefore you cannot be impartial.

[Bannanachair]

Aug 6, 2016 3:56:19 GMT -4 Dex said:

The chance of riots is low(Even if they do happen what would they riot about? A candidate that they don't like got elected?) and I don't think Trump wants to solicit war like you think he does. Tim you are being opinionated and biased, therefore you cannot be impartial.

Riots against Trump might save the world. His nuclear policy includes giving nukes to America's allies like Japan, South Korea and Saudi Arabia, and his foreign policy when dealing with one of America's largest trading partners is "let's build a wall that they don't want and force them to pay for it", and they will only pay for it if the war becomes an armed conflict. Those are just two things off the top of my head that make me think a Trump presidency will end the world.

[The Jiggler]

I'd hate to be stuck in an American-Mexican war. I'm entirely too close to the border to have a Mexican annexation. The majority of my school's population is either Mexican or Hispanic, and they'd, without a doubt, raise up arms against me if it came to an American-Mexican war. My family and I would have to move up further north or even into Canada. But I also support giving South Korea nuclear weapons. The South Koreans are devoted to Westerner culture and are one of the United States' most trusted allies. After the Korean War, the United States moved garrisons in and around South Korea in the event of North Korea attempting to invade South Korea as well as strategic positions for a hypothetical Chinese-American war. 

I don't trust Saudi Arabia or Japan with nuclear weapons. Although the Japanese put on a facade that they're close allies with the USA, from the honorability known in Japanese culture, they haven't forgotten Hiroshima or Nagasaki, and the Japanese probably will remember for another thousand years or until bombed by another country (or the US). 

Honestly, though, I'd full-heartedly believe that a coup would happen between the cartels or an all-out civil war. But Mexico is reliant on the United States for the United States' agricultural industries. If Mexico would be cut out of NAFTA, it'd cripple the Mexican economy, and they wouldn't be able to pay their soldiers, logistics, and for repairs on vehicles, not to mention that the United States active personnel is about ~1,130,000 more soldiers than Mexico as well as about ~1,000,000 more soldiers in their reserves than Mexico.


The United States military is becoming smaller and smaller though as our war technologies advance more rapidly. Eventually, I believe we'll have entire centers in cities dedicated to controlling mechanical soldiers overseas.


So even if Donald Trump does incite a war with Mexico, it wouldn't be fortuitous for the Mexicans. 

[Bannanachair]

Giving nuclear weapons to anyone will have implications that you can not imagine. With the collapse of the USSR, there were nukes all over countries like Ukraine and Lithuania and America and Russia convinced them to give up their nukes. If we let more countries get nukes Belarus and Georgia will get bloody pissed and demand their nukes back, which will fuck up world politics a lot.

[Deleted]

Haha it's funny that Tim thinks the US president is anything more than a figurehead

[hygenisthygenist]

Aug 31, 2016 16:42:43 GMT -4 @lego said:

Haha it's funny that Tim thinks the US president is anything more than a figurehead

haha it's funny that lego thinks that the guy in charge of our armed forces literally has no power

[Deleted]

Aug 31, 2016 16:54:30 GMT -4 hygenisthygenist said:

Aug 31, 2016 16:42:43 GMT -4 @lego said:

Haha it's funny that Tim thinks the US president is anything more than a figurehead

haha it's funny that lego thinks that the guy in charge of our armed forces literally has no power

You need a declaration of war to do anything but minor insertions 
A declaration of war needs to pass through congress
Generals can refuse to follow stupid orders
You need to get an okay from the launch commander to operate our nuclear arsenal, which can be confirmed or denied at will
We have fail-safe upon fail-safe to prevent the president from having full power over anything 

[Death]

Aug 31, 2016 17:07:06 GMT -4 @lego said:

Aug 31, 2016 16:54:30 GMT -4 hygenisthygenist said:

haha it's funny that lego thinks that the guy in charge of our armed forces literally has no power

You need a declaration of war to do anything but minor insertions 
A declaration of war needs to pass through congress
Generals can refuse to follow stupid orders
You need to get an okay from the launch commander to operate our nuclear arsenal, which can be confirmed or denied at will
We have fail-safe upon fail-safe to prevent the president from having full power over anything 

Guess you could say thats Americas.... 'Trump' card?

[hygenisthygenist]

Aug 31, 2016 17:07:06 GMT -4 @lego said:

Aug 31, 2016 16:54:30 GMT -4 hygenisthygenist said:

haha it's funny that lego thinks that the guy in charge of our armed forces literally has no power

You need a declaration of war to do anything but minor insertions 
A declaration of war needs to pass through congress
Generals can refuse to follow stupid orders
You need to get an okay from the launch commander to operate our nuclear arsenal, which can be confirmed or denied at will
We have fail-safe upon fail-safe to prevent the president from having full power over anything 

Checks and balances do not make for a lack of power. Each of three branches has those. The President is hardly powerless. He can veto laws (which unless the overwhelming majority two houses of congress agree upon it effectively kills a bill)  and issue executive orders, as well as being chief diplomat (head of state) and commander-in-chief. That hardly makes him just a figurehead or powerless. It's still a VERY important position.

[Deleted]

Aug 31, 2016 17:12:53 GMT -4 hygenisthygenist said:

Aug 31, 2016 17:07:06 GMT -4 @lego said:

You need a declaration of war to do anything but minor insertions 
A declaration of war needs to pass through congress
Generals can refuse to follow stupid orders
You need to get an okay from the launch commander to operate our nuclear arsenal, which can be confirmed or denied at will
We have fail-safe upon fail-safe to prevent the president from having full power over anything 

Checks and balances do not make for a lack of power. Each of three branches has those. The President is hardly powerless. He can veto laws (which unless the overwhelming majority two houses of congress agree upon it effectively kills a bill)  and issue executive orders, as well as being chief diplomat (head of state) and commander-in-chief. That hardly makes him just a figurehead or powerless. It's still a VERY important position.

I suppose figurehead wasn't exactly the right term, but still. The president only has real power over foreign affairs. Which, granted, does have it's affects on the home country. But in a more direct sense, the president can do little more propose a new bill or call for a veto. In both cases, it's congress that finishes the job. 

[Death]

Aug 31, 2016 17:17:54 GMT -4 @lego said:

Aug 31, 2016 17:12:53 GMT -4 hygenisthygenist said:

Checks and balances do not make for a lack of power. Each of three branches has those. The President is hardly powerless. He can veto laws (which unless the overwhelming majority two houses of congress agree upon it effectively kills a bill)  and issue executive orders, as well as being chief diplomat (head of state) and commander-in-chief. That hardly makes him just a figurehead or powerless. It's still a VERY important position.

I suppose figurehead wasn't exactly the right term, but still. The president only has real power over foreign affairs. Which, granted, does have it's affects on the home country. But in a more direct sense, the president can do little more propose a new bill or call for a veto. In both cases, it's congress that finishes the job. 

guis stop flaming each other... or you'll start to 'feel the bern'

[Deleted]

Aug 31, 2016 17:19:27 GMT -4 Death said:

Aug 31, 2016 17:17:54 GMT -4 @lego said:

I suppose figurehead wasn't exactly the right term, but still. The president only has real power over foreign affairs. Which, granted, does have it's affects on the home country. But in a more direct sense, the president can do little more propose a new bill or call for a veto. In both cases, it's congress that finishes the job. 

guis stop flaming each other... or you'll start to 'feel the bern'

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[Death]

Aug 31, 2016 17:31:54 GMT -4 @lego said:

Aug 31, 2016 17:19:27 GMT -4 Death said:

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[vammy]

Also keep in mind it's been confirmed that atleast two people need agree for a nuke to be sent out.

So if trump is really retarded that second person will just tell him to chill.

And congress and the Supreme Court literally have the power to remove the president from power and even send him to jail, if trump really started getting crazy he would be impeached within a year tops.

[Not WiFi]

I know my politics, look:

Melania Trump is a 7/10

Ivanka Trump is a 9/10