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Post by snowy happy on May 21, 2018 19:18:00 GMT -4
Since the RPF collapsed, it's become pretty much impossible to make any form of RP that isn't an ISRP, since demand for roleplaying is so low (despite the fact that it's what this entire Proboard was MADE FOR) that too little people will join to run a functioning RP with separate characters at the same time.
Regardless, I'm still wondering if more than two people here are up for a mystery story involving murder, an atomic research centre, and a small fictional Scottish town?
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Post by Duck14 on May 21, 2018 21:16:13 GMT -4
I don’t think it’s true that the proboard was made for Roleplay, nor does it matter. Contrary to popular belief this place was made to keep the community together in a place that wasn’t RPF. The attitude of some that think this place should be all about RP is outdated and quite frankly wrong.
And sure non-ISRP are incredibly possible if people join. Creative is busy right now but Pokémon World is a thing. Tim is making his Fantasy RP which has seen interest from a couple of people. You need to test the waters before jumping in but if people want to play they will play. And if not, well there’s other things to talk about.
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Post by Bannanachair on May 21, 2018 21:25:25 GMT -4
I'm just waiting for Duck or Tikobe to finish their CSes and then Fantasy RP will have officially begun. I can finish writing the RP itself later; there's enough information for part of the world to be RP-able, and I'll add the rest later.
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Post by snowy happy on May 21, 2018 21:39:49 GMT -4
Tim, why do you always take my threads off topic within five posts?
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Post by Duck14 on May 21, 2018 22:27:59 GMT -4
But it’s on topic. He’s talking about an RP that will not be an ISRP which people have shown interest to. Besides it’s not as if you replied to my post which was on topic.
Tim, I won’t complete my CS until at least next week. Just too busy finishing this semesters assignments at the moment.
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Post by snow happy. on May 21, 2018 22:58:48 GMT -4
But it’s on topic. He’s talking about an RP that will not be an ISRP which people have shown interest to. Besides it’s not as if you replied to my post which was on topic. Tim, I won’t complete my CS until at least next week. Just too busy finishing this semesters assignments at the moment. But it's not. While it correlates to all those categories, it is NOT an answer to my question or an opinion on my upcoming RP.
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Post by Bannanachair on May 21, 2018 23:56:30 GMT -4
But it’s on topic. He’s talking about an RP that will not be an ISRP which people have shown interest to. Besides it’s not as if you replied to my post which was on topic. Tim, I won’t complete my CS until at least next week. Just too busy finishing this semesters assignments at the moment. But it's not. While it correlates to all those categories, it is NOT an answer to my question or an opinion on my upcoming RP. You asked two separate questions. The first one that you asked was "Would an actual, non-ISRP RP work on BC anymore?", and the second was "would more than two people here be up for a mystery story involving murder, an atomic research centre, and a small fictional Scottish town?". I directly addressed and answered the first question, providing an example of an actual, non-ISRP RP that seems to be working on Bannanachair, while elaborating a small amount on Duck's answer, which also referenced the same actual, non-ISRP RP.
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Post by Tikobe on May 22, 2018 1:16:23 GMT -4
I know I've very little room to speak or assert an argument here since I almost exclusively make ISRPs (This was a thing even before RPF went poof (The first RP I made was an ISRP and I'm willing to bet the last I make will be an ISRP)) but a non-isrp should be feasible on BC. We have a very small community here, yes, but enough of us are interested in RPing to draw attention to an RP. At the very least, if you notice a lack of enthusiasm try to get at least one person to roleplay and just do some stuff between the two of you and hope that what the actual RP has to offer appeals to the rest of us and compels us to join (That's how things go for quite a number of RPs sometime (While not the most ideal scenario, it's quite far from being the end all be all of an RP and so long as you have that one person it shouldn't be too much of a problem (It'd be at least better than me. I've had quite a few times where I tried to make an RP that wasn't an ISRP but I couldn't get anyone to join, and that was when RPF was still a thing (I'm still salty about it (Granted, it's my fault that I can't make a good RP))))).
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Post by snowy happy on May 22, 2018 10:41:56 GMT -4
I know I've very little room to speak or assert an argument here since I almost exclusively make ISRPs (This was a thing even before RPF went poof (The first RP I made was an ISRP and I'm willing to bet the last I make will be an ISRP)) but a non-isrp should be feasible on BC. We have a very small community here, yes, but enough of us are interested in RPing to draw attention to an RP. At the very least, if you notice a lack of enthusiasm try to get at least one person to roleplay and just do some stuff between the two of you and hope that what the actual RP has to offer appeals to the rest of us and compels us to join (That's how things go for quite a number of RPs sometime (While not the most ideal scenario, it's quite far from being the end all be all of an RP and so long as you have that one person it shouldn't be too much of a problem (It'd be at least better than me. I've had quite a few times where I tried to make an RP that wasn't an ISRP but I couldn't get anyone to join, and that was when RPF was still a thing (I'm still salty about it (Granted, it's my fault that I can't make a good RP))))). Well that was difficult to read. Regardless, thanks for the advice
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Post by Tikobe on May 22, 2018 16:07:03 GMT -4
I know I've very little room to speak or assert an argument here since I almost exclusively make ISRPs (This was a thing even before RPF went poof (The first RP I made was an ISRP and I'm willing to bet the last I make will be an ISRP)) but a non-isrp should be feasible on BC. We have a very small community here, yes, but enough of us are interested in RPing to draw attention to an RP. At the very least, if you notice a lack of enthusiasm try to get at least one person to roleplay and just do some stuff between the two of you and hope that what the actual RP has to offer appeals to the rest of us and compels us to join (That's how things go for quite a number of RPs sometime (While not the most ideal scenario, it's quite far from being the end all be all of an RP and so long as you have that one person it shouldn't be too much of a problem (It'd be at least better than me. I've had quite a few times where I tried to make an RP that wasn't an ISRP but I couldn't get anyone to join, and that was when RPF was still a thing (I'm still salty about it (Granted, it's my fault that I can't make a good RP))))). Well that was difficult to read. Regardless, thanks for the advice Yeah... Kinda got sidetracked writing that.
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Post by Bannanachair on Jun 11, 2018 23:17:14 GMT -4
I'm just waiting for Duck or Tikobe to finish their CSes and then Fantasy RP will have officially begun. I can finish writing the RP itself later; there's enough information for part of the world to be RP-able, and I'll add the rest later. Well, there you have it. I guess I now know firsthand that the answer to the question of whether an actual, non-ISRP RP would work on BC anymore is a resounding "yes".
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Post by Hhaappyy on Jun 12, 2018 18:57:20 GMT -4
I'm just waiting for Duck or Tikobe to finish their CSes and then Fantasy RP will have officially begun. I can finish writing the RP itself later; there's enough information for part of the world to be RP-able, and I'll add the rest later. Well, there you have it. I guess I now know firsthand that the answer to the question of whether an actual, non-ISRP RP would work on BC anymore is a resounding "yes". Except in my case. Around a day of work down the drain.
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Post by Bannanachair on Jun 12, 2018 23:10:38 GMT -4
Well, there you have it. I guess I now know firsthand that the answer to the question of whether an actual, non-ISRP RP would work on BC anymore is a resounding "yes". Except in my case. Around a day of work down the drain. Put a few more months into it and things might turn out better. I spent six months making mine the best that it can be and I'm still writing the OP, I just decided to start without having completed it.
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Post by hhaaaaaaaapy on Jun 12, 2018 23:50:30 GMT -4
Except in my case. Around a day of work down the drain. Put a few more months into it and things might turn out better. I spent six months making mine the best that it can be and I'm still writing the OP, I just decided to start without having completed it. There's nothing to add.
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Post by Bannanachair on Jun 12, 2018 23:52:07 GMT -4
Put a few more months into it and things might turn out better. I spent six months making mine the best that it can be and I'm still writing the OP, I just decided to start without having completed it. There's nothing to add. That's hardly true. There's always more worldbuilding to do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 6:35:53 GMT -4
Orr you got joiners because you talked about it a lot as you wrote it and let people know you were making it, and a couple people joined
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 6:39:34 GMT -4
Worldbuilding is great and all, but I don't think your success (cough cough, two joiners, was it?) means that everyone else should be writing their worlds as intricately and as advanced as you're doing it. That's a lot to expect, and it's far from the main thing that determines success.
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Post by Bannanachair on Jun 13, 2018 7:01:33 GMT -4
Orr you got joiners because you talked about it a lot as you wrote it and let people know you were making it, and a couple people joined That could be a contributing factor, but knowing the people who joined as well as I do, they'd have signed up if there was no advertising for it at all. Maybe. Worldbuilding is great and all, but I don't think your success (cough cough, two joiners, was it?) means that everyone else should be writing their worlds as intricately and as advanced as you're doing it. That's a lot to expect, and it's far from the main thing that determines success. Okay, first, two joiners is about 20% of the remaining Bannanachair community. No RP in the entire history of the RP forums has ever had 20% of the entire active community participate in it at once. It's also worth noting that this is two joiners within the first page itself - on Land of Ferinox, Wasabimasta didn't join until page 14, and there were delays for people to join other RPs of mine in the past. Second, I'm not implying that everyone needs to write the Silmarillion in order to have a successful RP, but on the other hand, a single day's worth of writing is not all that much. You can have better prose than I do without being Hemingway. There is a middle ground, and, as I said earlier, there is always room for improvement in everything.
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Post by Benzo on Jun 13, 2018 10:14:01 GMT -4
I think concept plays a role in user interest as much if not more than the world building/detail itself. Granted, I'm not sure if they would count as non-ISRP's since they kind of were, but my two main successes, AGE and the RP(G)s, both had almost non-existent details in areas.
I guess Mobile Suit: ARCH could count too, though I myself killed that just by lack of experience hosting an open RP. Very little detail outside of the Mech-design guidelines.
Hell, I think all of my successful RPs were due to having something unique about their structure rather than anything particularly fascinating about the plot or setting.
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Post by Bannanachair on Jun 13, 2018 10:41:35 GMT -4
I think concept plays a role in user interest as much if not more than the world building/detail itself. Granted, I'm not sure if they would count as non-ISRP's since they kind of were, but my two main successes, AGE and the RP(G)s, both had almost non-existent details in areas. I guess Mobile Suit: ARCH could count too, though I myself killed that just by lack of experience hosting an open RP. Very little detail outside of the Mech-design guidelines. Hell, I think all of my successful RPs were due to having something unique about their structure rather than anything particularly fascinating about the plot or setting. I was part of AGE so I can comment on why I joined it: I think the whole thing combined together well. The system of having different threads for different contracts but with the same character between them really worked as the structure of an episodic RP, and the ability for you to choose between a short ISRP and a short RP with other established characters was rather liberating. That said, the structure would not have worked if the plot or setting had been different - for instance, in a fantasy RP like what I often make.
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Post by Benzo on Jun 13, 2018 10:53:12 GMT -4
So I did briefly consider making a Fantasy-themed sequel based around sellswords but yeah, I definitely have to agree that I don't think it would've worked as well. Probably would've just turned into some weird combination of Assassin's Creed and Witcher/Monster Hunter.
Come to think of it, my best RPs are based on games. AGE came from whatever Hitman game first announced player-made contracts. Absolution, maybe? Literally never played any of the games, the commercial just reaaaally caught my attention.
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Post by Bannanachair on Jun 13, 2018 11:13:15 GMT -4
I once, years and years ago when I was still running Siege of Dorthol, had an idea for an AGE-like RP set in the same world as Siege of Dorthol. It would have taken place between the sequel to Siege of Dorthol and the third RP in the main series, and would have detailed the majority of a war between the kingdoms of Tarthel and Lehtrat. Each thread would depict a single battle in the war, with anyone who wanted to join having as many threads as they wanted and even being able to play the same character in two threads concurrently (so long as the threads themselves took place in different points in time). I never got that far through the series to be able to test it out, but that was the closest way for me to adapt an AGE-esque system into the fantasy genre.
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Post by haahpy on Jun 13, 2018 18:39:24 GMT -4
Orr you got joiners because you talked about it a lot as you wrote it and let people know you were making it, and a couple people joined That could be a contributing factor, but knowing the people who joined as well as I do, they'd have signed up if there was no advertising for it at all. Maybe. Worldbuilding is great and all, but I don't think your success (cough cough, two joiners, was it?) means that everyone else should be writing their worlds as intricately and as advanced as you're doing it. That's a lot to expect, and it's far from the main thing that determines success. Okay, first, two joiners is about 20% of the remaining Bannanachair community. No RP in the entire history of the RP forums has ever had 20% of the entire active community participate in it at once. It's also worth noting that this is two joiners within the first page itself - on Land of Ferinox, Wasabimasta didn't join until page 14, and there were delays for people to join other RPs of mine in the past. Second, I'm not implying that everyone needs to write the Silmarillion in order to have a successful RP, but on the other hand, a single day's worth of writing is not all that much. You can have better prose than I do without being Hemingway. There is a middle ground, and, as I said earlier, there is always room for improvement in everything. Tim, the entire RP is set in a small town. I've made a map and detailed it as much as I can, described multiple locations in the town, and created a prompt that's easy to start off of. There's not many reasons for my RP to be completely ignored. Why can't you give a try at joining?
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Post by Bannanachair on Jun 13, 2018 19:31:36 GMT -4
That could be a contributing factor, but knowing the people who joined as well as I do, they'd have signed up if there was no advertising for it at all. Maybe. Okay, first, two joiners is about 20% of the remaining Bannanachair community. No RP in the entire history of the RP forums has ever had 20% of the entire active community participate in it at once. It's also worth noting that this is two joiners within the first page itself - on Land of Ferinox, Wasabimasta didn't join until page 14, and there were delays for people to join other RPs of mine in the past. Second, I'm not implying that everyone needs to write the Silmarillion in order to have a successful RP, but on the other hand, a single day's worth of writing is not all that much. You can have better prose than I do without being Hemingway. There is a middle ground, and, as I said earlier, there is always room for improvement in everything. Tim, the entire RP is set in a small town. I've made a map and detailed it as much as I can, described multiple locations in the town, and created a prompt that's easy to start off of. There's not many reasons for my RP to be completely ignored. Why can't you give a try at joining? Because I think the name is silly, to be honest. It sounds like "rat fondue".
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Post by Duck14 on Jun 14, 2018 8:15:32 GMT -4
Honestly Happy, it’s not that I’m not interested or anything. It’s just about time that I can dedicate to it. I’m already in two RPs on this site (both non-ISRPs) and there’s a load of stuff I like to do outside of this site. I’d probably join if more people did, in fact I think it would be great if we had more people joining all the RPs we have going on, but that’s not likely to happen. An increased population of RPers secures the longevity of that RP, if I’m the only one that joins it may die out (especially considering our different time zones).
Now I would also be annoyed if I put effort into something and no one responded to it so I see where you’re coming from. It’s why I never made an RP on Roblox. If anything that place was worse because of mini mods, markers that never joined, constant whingers, people who’d complain about no RPs but never make or join any, e.t.c. But you’ve actually made an RP so that’s respectable. I also don’t think you need to put much more work into it, that’s not what sold me on Tim’s world (I probably would have joined regardless). Tim had the advantage of six months of talking about it which you simply didn’t but he also has the advantage of writing a genre that I enjoy. You don’t need more detail though, you just need to sell to your audience. I do enjoy mysteries, but I’m weary of the lack of joiners.
You ask Tim to join. Fair enough. Why don’t you join Fantasy RP? It would be good to have more people there.
Pokémon World had more people back on Roblox. Probably had the most long term and short term joiners of any RP back on Roblox. However, only Creative and I made the switch to here so we have less people than we once did. But percentage wise it’s probably the same as it was back there, maybe more. Maybe that’s not for anyone else that’s still here, but that’s your choice. Join what you want, no one enjoys every genre.
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